Yeah it’s really hard. I tend to want developers to be product engineers and really care about not just coding but solving problems for end users. Reality give

Yeah it’s really hard. I tend to want developers to be product engineers and really care about not just coding but solving problems for end users. Reality gives us a bunch of people with different goals and different ways to make them happy, as you say. A lot of developers just want to get on and code without looking at the wider picture too hard - as long as they know their work is valued. “Being involved earlier in the process” has tended to mean “knowing what kind of feature you might be working on and how sets of tickets are related” for a lot of engineers in my experience.