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Ron Paul's chop-govt plan savings normalized vs military spend

7 points by rkalla 15y ago

nextparadigms 15y ago
I don't know where this is coming from. Everyone who's been following Ron Paul knows that he's very much anti-war and probably the only one, too. I've noticed some candidates are even starting to suggest that USA should "do something about Iran" (read: war) while others like Hermain Cain are more like "we leave all options on the table" (read: easy puppet -> war). http://ronpaulflix.com/2011/10/ron-paul-cnn-interview-before-his-plan-to-restore-america-press-conference-oct-17-2011/ http://ronpaulflix.com/2011/10/ron-paul-cnn-interview-before...
r00fus 15y ago
Show me an anti-war republican and I'll show you a failed republican presidential candidate. Republicans have been the war-party for at least all of the 20th century and the 21st so far.
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- mgarfias 15y ago
  WW1, Wilson: Democrat WW2, FDR: Democrat Korea, Truman: Democrat Vietnam, JFK/LBJ: Democrat Persian Gulf War, Bush I: Republican Global War On Terror, Bush II: Republican Note, minor conflicts (Grenada, Bosnia) left out.
cwe 15y ago
Is this a joke? Harping on Ron Paul on military spending? Seriously? The FIRST line item on his "plan" is a 15% cut of the DOD, including "all war funding ended": http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the-issues/ron-paul-plan-to-restore-america/ http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the-issues/ron-paul-plan-to-resto...
gte910h 15y ago
Why are we reading a link to a very short slashdot comment about politics unrelated to tech?
waffle_ss 15y ago
He wants to cut them on principle, not strictly because of the monetary savings. National defense wouldn't be eliminated (however, he has said many times it needs to be cut drastically) because it is one of the few services that libertarians believe the federal gov't should actually provide citizens, i.e. protection from outside threats. (Likewise, the judicial system would need to be kept in order to arbitrate disputes among citizens internally.) For more on the subject, here's an interview with Milton Friedman in his twilight years, where he talks about cutting most federal agencies (I actually enjoy the earlier parts, 1-3, better): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64mr-cjxZfU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64mr-cjxZfU Edit: If you're a Ron Paul fan, you would probably enjoy a lot of the Milton Friedman videos on YouTube, especially the Donahue ones
- 13rules 15y ago
  And he has specified that you can drastically cut military spending and not affect national defense in any way. We are in 150+ countries currently and fighting several wars while we are basically broke. It's time to make cuts in EVERYTHING
carsongross 15y ago
Seriously. If Ron Paul had an ounce of integrity, he'd be against the wars. Oh wait.

7 points by rkalla 15y ago

I don't know where this is coming from. Everyone who's been following Ron Paul knows that he's very much anti-war and probably the only one, too. I've noticed some candidates are even starting to suggest that USA should "do something about Iran" (read: war) while others like Hermain Cain are more like "we leave all options on the table" (read: easy puppet -> war). http://ronpaulflix.com/2011/10/ron-paul-cnn-interview-before-his-plan-to-restore-america-press-conference-oct-17-2011/ http://ronpaulflix.com/2011/10/ron-paul-cnn-interview-before...

r00fus 15y ago

Show me an anti-war republican and I'll show you a failed republican presidential candidate. Republicans have been the war-party for at least all of the 20th century and the 21st so far.

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mgarfias 15y ago
WW1, Wilson: Democrat WW2, FDR: Democrat Korea, Truman: Democrat Vietnam, JFK/LBJ: Democrat Persian Gulf War, Bush I: Republican Global War On Terror, Bush II: Republican Note, minor conflicts (Grenada, Bosnia) left out.

cwe 15y ago

Is this a joke? Harping on Ron Paul on military spending? Seriously? The FIRST line item on his "plan" is a 15% cut of the DOD, including "all war funding ended": http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the-issues/ron-paul-plan-to-restore-america/ http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the-issues/ron-paul-plan-to-resto...

gte910h 15y ago

Why are we reading a link to a very short slashdot comment about politics unrelated to tech?

waffle_ss 15y ago

He wants to cut them on principle, not strictly because of the monetary savings. National defense wouldn't be eliminated (however, he has said many times it needs to be cut drastically) because it is one of the few services that libertarians believe the federal gov't should actually provide citizens, i.e. protection from outside threats. (Likewise, the judicial system would need to be kept in order to arbitrate disputes among citizens internally.) For more on the subject, here's an interview with Milton Friedman in his twilight years, where he talks about cutting most federal agencies (I actually enjoy the earlier parts, 1-3, better): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64mr-cjxZfU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64mr-cjxZfU Edit: If you're a Ron Paul fan, you would probably enjoy a lot of the Milton Friedman videos on YouTube, especially the Donahue ones

13rules 15y ago
And he has specified that you can drastically cut military spending and not affect national defense in any way. We are in 150+ countries currently and fighting several wars while we are basically broke. It's time to make cuts in EVERYTHING

carsongross 15y ago

Seriously. If Ron Paul had an ounce of integrity, he'd be against the wars. Oh wait.