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"Using AI tools for hiring"...this is when i like to remind myself that google, basically at some point in the last 12-24 months was like "OH CRAP, we forgot to

by tj_h 4y ago

"Using AI tools for hiring"...this is when i like to remind myself that google, basically at some point in the last 12-24 months was like "OH CRAP, we forgot to tell our robots about black people!". Like, I'm not saying google is at the forefront of ML - maybe it is, but it sure as hell is out in front somewhere and more to the point most companies are likely not gonna be using cutting edge technology for this stuff. EVEN GOOGLE, admitted their ML for images is poorly optimized for POC's, i hate to think what some random ML algorithm used by company X thinks about differently abled peoples

temp8964 4y ago
This is unreasonable generalization. Dark skin does have direct impact on image processing. Nothing like this exists in hiring.
- lmkg 4y ago
  There are companies selling products which screen hiring candidates based on video of them talking. Ostensibly for determining personality traits or whatever. So yes, this literally exists in hiring.
- htrp 4y ago
  Mate. you ever hear about amazon's hiring ai?
- smiley1437 4y ago
  While image processing dark skin may not be germane to AIs doing hiring, the idea that unintentional discrimination from ML models could occur in the context of hiring is certainly worth considering and I believe it's the entire point of the technical assistance document released today.
- httpsterio 4y ago
  Racial bias does exist in ML based image recognition tools, there's a plethora of evidence to show that. https://www.theverge.com/2019/1/25/18197137/amazon-rekognition-facial-recognition-bias-race-gender https://www.theverge.com/2019/1/25/18197137/amazon-rekogniti... https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wired.com/story/best-algorithms-struggle-recognize-black-faces-equally/amp https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wired.com/story/best-algori... https://algorithmwatch.org/en/google-vision-racism/ https://algorithmwatch.org/en/google-vision-racism/ https://time.com/5520558/artificial-intelligence-racial-gender-bias/ https://time.com/5520558/artificial-intelligence-racial-gend...

by tj_h 4y ago

temp8964 4y ago

This is unreasonable generalization. Dark skin does have direct impact on image processing. Nothing like this exists in hiring.

lmkg 4y ago
There are companies selling products which screen hiring candidates based on video of them talking. Ostensibly for determining personality traits or whatever. So yes, this literally exists in hiring.
htrp 4y ago
Mate. you ever hear about amazon's hiring ai?
smiley1437 4y ago
While image processing dark skin may not be germane to AIs doing hiring, the idea that unintentional discrimination from ML models could occur in the context of hiring is certainly worth considering and I believe it's the entire point of the technical assistance document released today.
httpsterio 4y ago
Racial bias does exist in ML based image recognition tools, there's a plethora of evidence to show that. https://www.theverge.com/2019/1/25/18197137/amazon-rekognition-facial-recognition-bias-race-gender https://www.theverge.com/2019/1/25/18197137/amazon-rekogniti... https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wired.com/story/best-algorithms-struggle-recognize-black-faces-equally/amp https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wired.com/story/best-algori... https://algorithmwatch.org/en/google-vision-racism/ https://algorithmwatch.org/en/google-vision-racism/ https://time.com/5520558/artificial-intelligence-racial-gender-bias/ https://time.com/5520558/artificial-intelligence-racial-gend...