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>China has no elections at all https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_China https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_China >China's oppression of th

by trasz 4y ago

>China has no elections at all https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_China https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_China >China's oppression of the Uyghurs is well documented, and is a process to destroy Uyghurs as a people It’s easy to demonstrate it’s not true: Uighurs, like other minorities, have certain privileges, like teaching kids their own language, or not being subject to one child policy. The oppression is a way to combat terrorism; essentially China is fighting the same problem US did, but in a more humanitarian fashion instead of bombing and droning. Have you noticed that just from your description above Russia is much closer to US than to China? From unfair elections, to systemic oppression of racial minorities, to invading other countries.

mcv 4y ago
Have you actually read that link? You're right, there are elections, but only at the local level. There's only a single party, and the national government interferes in local elections. What China does well, though, is to get capable people in positions of power. I guess that's partially because the people don't get a direct say. Someone like Trump would never have been able to rise to power there. > Uighurs, like other minorities, have certain privileges, like teaching kids their own language, or not being subject to one child policy. And also to forced sterilisation and forced labour, I guess. You can read more about it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghur_genocide https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghur_genocide > Have you noticed that just from your description above Russia is much closer to US than to China? From unfair elections, to systemic oppression of racial minorities, to invading other countries. Oh, absolutely. Like I said, the US has more than its fair share of problems. These need to be addressed. But it's not a dictatorship yet, and while there are people who want to end US democracy, there are also a lot of people who want to strengthen it and address its problems. But it's absolutely true that under Trump, the US moved to become closer to Putin and more like Russia. And that is not a good direction to be moving in.
- trasz 4y ago
  >You're right, there are elections, but only at the local level. It's called "indirect elections", and is also used in US for presidential elections. >There's only a single party Which is fundamentally different from a two party system, right? :-> >And also to forced sterilisation and forced labour Which also happen in American prisons. See, here's the problem: I know precisely what you're trying to say, I used to believe it myself. But then I realised that this belief simply isn't backed by facts.

by trasz 4y ago

mcv 4y ago

Have you actually read that link? You're right, there are elections, but only at the local level. There's only a single party, and the national government interferes in local elections. What China does well, though, is to get capable people in positions of power. I guess that's partially because the people don't get a direct say. Someone like Trump would never have been able to rise to power there. > Uighurs, like other minorities, have certain privileges, like teaching kids their own language, or not being subject to one child policy. And also to forced sterilisation and forced labour, I guess. You can read more about it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghur_genocide https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghur_genocide > Have you noticed that just from your description above Russia is much closer to US than to China? From unfair elections, to systemic oppression of racial minorities, to invading other countries. Oh, absolutely. Like I said, the US has more than its fair share of problems. These need to be addressed. But it's not a dictatorship yet, and while there are people who want to end US democracy, there are also a lot of people who want to strengthen it and address its problems. But it's absolutely true that under Trump, the US moved to become closer to Putin and more like Russia. And that is not a good direction to be moving in.

trasz 4y ago
>You're right, there are elections, but only at the local level. It's called "indirect elections", and is also used in US for presidential elections. >There's only a single party Which is fundamentally different from a two party system, right? :-> >And also to forced sterilisation and forced labour Which also happen in American prisons. See, here's the problem: I know precisely what you're trying to say, I used to believe it myself. But then I realised that this belief simply isn't backed by facts.