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Is there _anyone_ working in crypto (other than Vitalik) that is actually likable? All these guys seem so self important and smug that I have a hard time sympat

by skc 4y ago

Is there _anyone_ working in crypto (other than Vitalik) that is actually likable? All these guys seem so self important and smug that I have a hard time sympathizing with them.

darthrupert 4y ago
That's a long known problem of the nouveau riche. Too much money too fast is tough to handle in a classy way.
pikelet 4y ago
Silvio Micali?
schleck8 4y ago
You are clearly just poor and jealous and not smart enough to understand crypto, the second coming /s
Rastonbury 4y ago
Part of the shtick and cult idea of alienation to create a common enemy or 'the other'. "Those guys are dumb, they can't see it, but you can, cuz you smart!" (Twitter is geared to show you these hot takes, they also bait reasonable people to 'engage')
S6eUL 4y ago
Not sure about "likable", but most of the high-profile people in crypto behave professionally. For my taste they are actually far too timid when it comes to talking about projects other than their own. Everyone is always super positive and hyped and agreeable and sure, there are "tons of scams out there" and "99 % of projects will die" but you rarely hear names.
- almostkorean 4y ago
  Yep, I avoid mentioning specific names as much as possible so I don't come off as a maxi or a shill. Also very uncomfortable mentioning anything specific to friends because I don't want them to interpret it as financial advice or get FOMO when I have no idea what a token's price will do
Comevius 4y ago
Crypto attracts people with dark tetrad (machiavellianism, narcissism, psychopathy, sadism) personalities. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886921008321 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S01918...
nfin 4y ago
It is sometimes hard to see through the noise, but for those actually interested, here a VERY incomplete list, just to have an idea where to start: - Pieter Wuille - Matt Corallo - Rusty Russell - Olaoluwa Osuntokun - Andrew Poelstra - Wladimir van der Laan - Surae and Sarang Noether - Matthew Green - Eli Ben-Sasson - David Burkett - ... ... (and many many (!) dozens more!) It is because of so much noise [1], that some other involved sometimes find it hard to stay friendly for an extended period of time (friendliness in this area lead very fast to dubious marketers to abuse (!) that friendliness to market they ponzis. Open source without economic tokens attract less of these people. Some people think it makes open-source + economic tokens a bad idea. Some other disagree and just either avoid the front pages and noise and just code ("cypherpunks write code") and some other struggle to find a balance and communicate more but sometimes a bit rough because of so many scams out there). In every big community (or country or any other group) you will find nice people and less nice/friendly people. People just see the latter one on twitter (because of how the algo works), and sadly think at all are like that. Sad :( But happily people like skc ask the important questions loudly :) [1]: new discoveries (like decentralize digiatal bearer assets) that involve money are bound to such frenzies and therefore noise edit: just for formatting (the bulletpoints of the list)

by skc 4y ago

Is there _anyone_ working in crypto (other than Vitalik) that is actually likable? All these guys seem so self important and smug that I have a hard time sympathizing with them.

darthrupert 4y ago

That's a long known problem of the nouveau riche. Too much money too fast is tough to handle in a classy way.

pikelet 4y ago

Silvio Micali?

schleck8 4y ago

You are clearly just poor and jealous and not smart enough to understand crypto, the second coming /s

Rastonbury 4y ago

Part of the shtick and cult idea of alienation to create a common enemy or 'the other'. "Those guys are dumb, they can't see it, but you can, cuz you smart!" (Twitter is geared to show you these hot takes, they also bait reasonable people to 'engage')

S6eUL 4y ago

Not sure about "likable", but most of the high-profile people in crypto behave professionally. For my taste they are actually far too timid when it comes to talking about projects other than their own. Everyone is always super positive and hyped and agreeable and sure, there are "tons of scams out there" and "99 % of projects will die" but you rarely hear names.

almostkorean 4y ago
Yep, I avoid mentioning specific names as much as possible so I don't come off as a maxi or a shill. Also very uncomfortable mentioning anything specific to friends because I don't want them to interpret it as financial advice or get FOMO when I have no idea what a token's price will do

Comevius 4y ago

Crypto attracts people with dark tetrad (machiavellianism, narcissism, psychopathy, sadism) personalities. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886921008321 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S01918...

nfin 4y ago

It is sometimes hard to see through the noise, but for those actually interested, here a VERY incomplete list, just to have an idea where to start: - Pieter Wuille - Matt Corallo - Rusty Russell - Olaoluwa Osuntokun - Andrew Poelstra - Wladimir van der Laan - Surae and Sarang Noether - Matthew Green - Eli Ben-Sasson - David Burkett - ... ... (and many many (!) dozens more!) It is because of so much noise [1], that some other involved sometimes find it hard to stay friendly for an extended period of time (friendliness in this area lead very fast to dubious marketers to abuse (!) that friendliness to market they ponzis. Open source without economic tokens attract less of these people. Some people think it makes open-source + economic tokens a bad idea. Some other disagree and just either avoid the front pages and noise and just code ("cypherpunks write code") and some other struggle to find a balance and communicate more but sometimes a bit rough because of so many scams out there). In every big community (or country or any other group) you will find nice people and less nice/friendly people. People just see the latter one on twitter (because of how the algo works), and sadly think at all are like that. Sad :( But happily people like skc ask the important questions loudly :) [1]: new discoveries (like decentralize digiatal bearer assets) that involve money are bound to such frenzies and therefore noise edit: just for formatting (the bulletpoints of the list)