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It's entirely reasonable to think both "They should be arrested" and "the police should stop others from attacking them". I'd argue it's much more reasonable to
by IanCal 4y ago
It's entirely reasonable to think both "They should be arrested" and "the police should stop others from attacking them". I'd argue it's much more reasonable to hold both views than only one - everyone for themselves or the rule of law rather than "the rule of law for people I don't like".
> People like him and their mind viruses are destructive to proper civil society.
I don't think the "proper civil society" response is that they should be subject to criminal attacks.
- mycroftiv 4y agoTriangulating between these responses which each have some sensible points, we (?) might choose to aim for meaningful and serious consequences (because life is srs bzns) yet still temper our justice with mercy, meaning, and occasionally a touch of humor.
- encryptluks2 4y agoIf the Korean justice system works anything like the US then, as long as someone has money there is no justice.
- Mindwipe 4y agoWell, he doesn't have any money any more.
- encryptluks2 4y agoI'm certain he was at least smart enough to at least convert a lot of his earnings into more stable cryptos.
- M2Ys4U 4y agoIf he was smart he would have sold his crypto holdings for real money, not other crypto nonsense.
- Mindwipe 4y ago> I'm certain he was at least smart enough to call convert a lot of his earnings into more stable cryptos. I am considerably less certain given some of his Twitter postings.
- fmajid 4y agoSuccessful drug dealers know better than to sample the wares they are shilling.
- FeepingCreature 4y agoOkay but also how about we don't triangulate between "rule of law" and "eye for an eye", and instead just have rule of law.
- newsclues 4y agoFlip side: our proper civil society allows to many people to disregard the law when they see fit and a strong and powerful position against illegal and unethical actions should be taken to return to a civil society.
- gmflkgfds 4y ago
- HL33tibCe7 4y agoA civil society would deal with this through the political process. Sorry if that’s unpopular with you, but the alternative is roaming gangs of lynch mobs dishing out vigilante justice to whoever they see fit. If you want to see how that works, I encourage you to go and visit some countries in the third world. You’ll be running back to the West faster than you even know.
- IanCal 4y agoI don't see how that's a flip side. Too many people being able to just disregard the law when they see fit is not an argument for either * Letting them off * Allowing more people to break the law as they see fit Which are the alternatives. > a strong and powerful position against illegal and unethical actions should be taken to return to a civil society. This would, imo, be the "arrest them" part of the argument.
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- raverbashing 4y agoProtecting from someone attacking him yes, preventing him from getting a mouthful from people protesting outside his house, heck no!
- numair 4y agoSorry, I think my comment lacked a bit of context. We are in agreement. “Police protection” tends to imply that you get treated as a special person, someone super important — like a head of state or a political dissident. It’s a bit like having Mark Zuckerberg’s security detail, but through the use of taxpayer funds. In a country where most people don’t have guns and don’t resolve problems through violence, the need for this sort of thing is extremely rare. As someone who is clearly “not poor,” as he says repeatedly, he should be asked to source his own protection rather than being an undue burden on the South Korean taxpayer. The funds and resources earmarked for police protection would be better spent protecting women fighting for equal representation, against corruption, etc. Of course, if the guy is actually poor, well, that’s another thing. I don’t think that is what we are dealing with here, however. Keep in mind that he dissolved the South Korean entity for Terra on April 30th…