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Winner for most American comment in the thread. There are more people in the EU than the USA, and I think you'd struggle to find many who prefer Chicago Deep Di

Winner for most American comment in the thread. There are more people in the EU than the USA, and I think you'd struggle to find many who prefer Chicago Deep Dish to a nice flat Italian. But I wouldn't be surprised if one of them replied to me telling me how wrong I am.

mjevans 4y ago
CDD isn't Pizza but a pizza inspired casserole. 'Detroit style' ... shudder technically still pizza, but I don't get the cotton candy like dough or the typical choice of spices. New York style is fine. California tends to have weird toppings but is also OK. Though IMO pizza requires a 'bread', tomato (usually as a sauce), and cheese, in a 'flat bread' style format. Thick or thin can all be good, and every type is going to have it's fan, even if that person happens to hate some component or another. Even if it's Pizza Inspired, it can be tasty.
- bee_rider 4y ago
  I think the tomato is not totally necessary. You can get a pizza with a white sauce (Bechamel?), ricotta, and garlic at some of the places around here. I don't think it is a weird American chain thing, if I remember the story correctly my mom first encountered it overseas...
  - HNDen21 4y ago
    Right, you can get the 4 cheese pizza(quattro formaggi) Has no tomato and is delicious... I have seen mushroom pizza without tomato as well
  - themaninthedark 4y ago
    You can also get pesto sauces
  - gpderetta 4y ago
    "Pizza Bianca" is very common kind of pizza in Italy: no tomato, with mozzarella, sometimes ricotta; commonly offered with a variety of toppings, often prosciutto.
2muchcoffeeman 4y ago
New York is full of the more traditional base but different toppings. Lots of places in Australia are also doing the same. But grand parent is right. The popular vision of pizza is what Italian immigrants exported from the US not what was exported from Italy. And if you want to play the numbers game, go to Asia and ask them what a pizza is. I’m not sure many people prefer the Chicago deep dish style or “Sicilian pizza”. I’ve not tried either. But dominos and Pizza Hut seem to be some in between thing. Edit: Rereading mlidners comment and other comments, it's a bit too dismissive of Italian pizza. Italian pizza is still pizza. It's just that American pizza is also pizza. And Swedish pizza is pizza. This is what happens when food is popularised and spread across the world.
mlindner 4y ago
There are more American types of pizza than Chicago Deep Dish (though I do love that as well). And yes the most common type of Pizza in Europe is also based on the American invented version, not the Italian one. It was reverse imported back into Europe from America.
- tigershark 4y ago
  Stop spreading bullshit, please.
- croon 4y ago
  As someone who has been looking all over Sweden for American pizza (specifically NY style for sake of variation) closer than the few Dominos franchises which exist, I'm rejecting that claim. Neapolitan pizza is great, American pizza is great, Swedish pizza (both kebab and otherwise) is great, it's just that if you're going to claim something is "more" pizza than something else, I'm going to give it to Italy.

mjevans 4y ago

CDD isn't Pizza but a pizza inspired casserole. 'Detroit style' ... shudder technically still pizza, but I don't get the cotton candy like dough or the typical choice of spices. New York style is fine. California tends to have weird toppings but is also OK. Though IMO pizza requires a 'bread', tomato (usually as a sauce), and cheese, in a 'flat bread' style format. Thick or thin can all be good, and every type is going to have it's fan, even if that person happens to hate some component or another. Even if it's Pizza Inspired, it can be tasty.

bee_rider 4y ago
I think the tomato is not totally necessary. You can get a pizza with a white sauce (Bechamel?), ricotta, and garlic at some of the places around here. I don't think it is a weird American chain thing, if I remember the story correctly my mom first encountered it overseas...
- HNDen21 4y ago
  Right, you can get the 4 cheese pizza(quattro formaggi) Has no tomato and is delicious... I have seen mushroom pizza without tomato as well
- themaninthedark 4y ago
  You can also get pesto sauces
- gpderetta 4y ago
  "Pizza Bianca" is very common kind of pizza in Italy: no tomato, with mozzarella, sometimes ricotta; commonly offered with a variety of toppings, often prosciutto.

2muchcoffeeman 4y ago

New York is full of the more traditional base but different toppings. Lots of places in Australia are also doing the same. But grand parent is right. The popular vision of pizza is what Italian immigrants exported from the US not what was exported from Italy. And if you want to play the numbers game, go to Asia and ask them what a pizza is. I’m not sure many people prefer the Chicago deep dish style or “Sicilian pizza”. I’ve not tried either. But dominos and Pizza Hut seem to be some in between thing. Edit: Rereading mlidners comment and other comments, it's a bit too dismissive of Italian pizza. Italian pizza is still pizza. It's just that American pizza is also pizza. And Swedish pizza is pizza. This is what happens when food is popularised and spread across the world.

mlindner 4y ago

There are more American types of pizza than Chicago Deep Dish (though I do love that as well). And yes the most common type of Pizza in Europe is also based on the American invented version, not the Italian one. It was reverse imported back into Europe from America.

tigershark 4y ago
Stop spreading bullshit, please.
croon 4y ago
As someone who has been looking all over Sweden for American pizza (specifically NY style for sake of variation) closer than the few Dominos franchises which exist, I'm rejecting that claim. Neapolitan pizza is great, American pizza is great, Swedish pizza (both kebab and otherwise) is great, it's just that if you're going to claim something is "more" pizza than something else, I'm going to give it to Italy.