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Was there a larger message in your comment than "poor people starve, so no thanks, I wanna be rich"? I want to give you the benefit of the doubt, but if that wa

Was there a larger message in your comment than "poor people starve, so no thanks, I wanna be rich"? I want to give you the benefit of the doubt, but if that was it, I think you missed, literally, the entire point of the comment you are responding to. It isn't saying you need to be poor to be godly. It's saying pointing your wealth toward your wants before the needs of your neighbors is wrong. Taking care of your own needs before the needs of others is martyrdom, and I don't think anything said above was saying that was required, or even suggested. One final thought: >while the wealthy by and large tend to do just fine Is debatable. In times of peace and prosperity, yes, they certainly do. In times of turmoil however, they are often the first to suffer, because they grow sure that money will carry the same weight in all social orders, which is not true. People, without fail, look around for the reason there isn't enough to go around, and the first thing they see is the castle in the hill.

mLuby 4y ago
> In times of turmoil however, they are often the first to suffer In times of turmoil the rich buy first-class tickets out of there and head to one of their secondary mansions. Too late for a ticket? Bribes will still get the job done. And anyway it's turmoil, so food-/shelter-/safety-insecure people always suffer earliest and most.
simonh 4y ago
>God brings down the mighty from their thrones and lifts up the lowly; about how God fills the hungry with good things and sends the rich away empty There's nothing anywhere in that quote or analysis that talks about giving to the poor or helping your neighbour. It says god will do that, not that we should do that. In fact how are we supposed to help our neighbours and uplift them in times of need if we're poor and have no surplus? The bible tells us not to worry about that, god will provide. I know that other parts of the bible tell us to give our wealth to the poor, but actually supporting the poor is not our problem. God will do it. Giving away our wealth isn't functional, it's not with the goal of solving poverty, it's with the goal of impoverishing ourselves so that we become virtuous because otherwise we will be punished.

mLuby 4y ago

> In times of turmoil however, they are often the first to suffer In times of turmoil the rich buy first-class tickets out of there and head to one of their secondary mansions. Too late for a ticket? Bribes will still get the job done. And anyway it's turmoil, so food-/shelter-/safety-insecure people always suffer earliest and most.

simonh 4y ago

>God brings down the mighty from their thrones and lifts up the lowly; about how God fills the hungry with good things and sends the rich away empty There's nothing anywhere in that quote or analysis that talks about giving to the poor or helping your neighbour. It says god will do that, not that we should do that. In fact how are we supposed to help our neighbours and uplift them in times of need if we're poor and have no surplus? The bible tells us not to worry about that, god will provide. I know that other parts of the bible tell us to give our wealth to the poor, but actually supporting the poor is not our problem. God will do it. Giving away our wealth isn't functional, it's not with the goal of solving poverty, it's with the goal of impoverishing ourselves so that we become virtuous because otherwise we will be punished.