> if you are sufficiently high on an international watch list E2E is mostly useless. Yes, pretty much. > The way the Russian invasion of Ukraine was so accura

> if you are sufficiently high on an international watch list E2E is mostly useless. Yes, pretty much. > The way the Russian invasion of Ukraine was so accurately telegraphed by the US was a demonstration to me of how powerful our intelligence apparatus is. Nah, they just had people infiltrate telegram/whatsapp groups and get the info from there. Russian army discipline in that area is very poor. Then Ukraine tapped into their actual calls for later intelligence. The baseband is actually the most unhelpful place to have any backdoor. But yes, if you're a high level target you're probably getting observed But that doesn't mean people should actively try to undermine E2E (again, it's not just against the government. I'm happy to keep it secret end to end, including to my ISP, the people on the same VLAN as me, etc) But I agree in some aspects that the right is not absolute. But I'm actually less worried with something like Pegasus than a blanket general weakening of privacy for everybody