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Why must it apply for a job, rather than just DO a job? But maybe some combination of this [1] and this [2] would do it. If you want to know about a computer

Why must it apply for a job, rather than just DO a job? But maybe some combination of this [1] and this [2] would do it. If you want to know about a computer actually DOING a remote job for a year without anyone noticing, I'll conclude with many links [a-i]. [1] : https://thisresumedoesnotexist.com/ https://thisresumedoesnotexist.com/ (Sorry for the bad certificates.) [2] : https://www.businessinsider.com/tiktoker-wrote-code-spam-kellogg-strike-busting-job-ad-site-2021-12 https://www.businessinsider.com/tiktoker-wrote-code-spam-kel... [a] : An original claim of just that: https://www.reddit.com/r/antiwork/comments/s2igq9/i_automated_my_job_over_a_year_ago_and_havent/ https://www.reddit.com/r/antiwork/comments/s2igq9/i_automate... [b] : Coverage of that post: https://www.newsweek.com/no-harm-done-it-employee-goes-viral-automating-job-playing-video-games-1668914 https://www.newsweek.com/no-harm-done-it-employee-goes-viral... [c] : https://www.reddit.com/r/antiwork/comments/p3wvdy/i_automated_the_vast_majority_of_both_my_job_and/ https://www.reddit.com/r/antiwork/comments/p3wvdy/i_automate... [d] : https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/jcdad/my_wife_works_from_home_and_ive_automated_her_job/ https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/jcdad/my_wife_wo... [e] : https://www.reddit.com/r/talesfromtechsupport/comments/277zih/that_time_that_i_automated_a_woman_out_of_a_job/ https://www.reddit.com/r/talesfromtechsupport/comments/277zi... [f] : https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/tenoq/reddit_my_friends_call_me_a_scumbag_because_i/ https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/tenoq/reddit_my_... [g] : https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/vomtn/update_my_friends_call_me_a_scumbag_because_i/ https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/vomtn/update_my_... [h] : https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/ew6gmd/aita_for_automating_my_job_and_getting_paid_while/ https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/ew6gmd/aita_... [i] : https://www.reddit.com/r/talesfromtechsupport/comments/7tjdkr/that_time_i_helped_automate_20_people_out_of_a_job/ https://www.reddit.com/r/talesfromtechsupport/comments/7tjdk... I mostly share the last few because of all of the "me, too" comments on them. There are several instances in there where an employer has no idea they are paying a salary, but a computer is doing the vast majority of the actual work. I feel like this is a "business world Turing test," like, "would an employer pay money for it, thinking it was a human." And I feel like I've provided evidence that has actually occurred.

Jensson 4y ago
> Why must it apply for a job, rather than just DO a job? Because being able to manage a business relationship is a part of the job. If you could show an AI which got a job, then wrote a simple script that automated the AI's job and then coasted for a year that would be fine, but your links are just humans doing that, I want an AI that can do that to consider it intelligent. But thanks for demonstrating so clearly how AI proponents are moving goalposts backward to make them easy to meet.
- VikingCoder 4y ago
  Should the AI be able to use a real human's SSN? And resume, to be able to pass a background check? Can a real human show up to interview, and take a drug test? Can we have real humans provide references, or must those be faked too? Must the computer go to high school and college, to have real transcripts to validate? Do we need to have a computer baby trick doctors into issuing it a birth certificate, so it can get its own SSN, and then the computer baby needs to have a physical body that it can use to trick a drug test with artificial urine, and it also needs to be able to have either computer-generated video and audio meetings, or at least computer-generated audio calls? Or can you list some jobs that you think require no SSN, no physical embodiment, no drug test, no video or audio teleconfrencing? Since you're accusing me of moving the goalposts backwards to make it "easy," let's have you define exactly where you think the goalposts should be, for your intelligence test. Or maybe, replacing a human driver (or some other job), 1:1, for a job a human did yesterday, and a computer does today could be enough? If it's capable of replacing a human, do you then not think the human needed intelligence to do their job?
  - Jensson 4y ago
    You can use a real persons contact details as long as the AI does all communication and work. Also it has to be the same AI, no altering the AI after you see the tasks it needs to perform after it gets the job, it has to understand that itself. For teleconferencing it could use text to speech and speech to text, they are pretty good these days so as long as the AI can parse what people say and identify when to speak and what to say it should do fine: https://cloud.google.com/text-to-speech https://cloud.google.com/text-to-speech But it might be easier to find a more hacker friendly job where all you need is somewhere for them to send money and they just demand you to write code and answer emails. There aren't that many such jobs, but they exist and you just need one job to do this.

Jensson 4y ago

> Why must it apply for a job, rather than just DO a job? Because being able to manage a business relationship is a part of the job. If you could show an AI which got a job, then wrote a simple script that automated the AI's job and then coasted for a year that would be fine, but your links are just humans doing that, I want an AI that can do that to consider it intelligent. But thanks for demonstrating so clearly how AI proponents are moving goalposts backward to make them easy to meet.

VikingCoder 4y ago
Should the AI be able to use a real human's SSN? And resume, to be able to pass a background check? Can a real human show up to interview, and take a drug test? Can we have real humans provide references, or must those be faked too? Must the computer go to high school and college, to have real transcripts to validate? Do we need to have a computer baby trick doctors into issuing it a birth certificate, so it can get its own SSN, and then the computer baby needs to have a physical body that it can use to trick a drug test with artificial urine, and it also needs to be able to have either computer-generated video and audio meetings, or at least computer-generated audio calls? Or can you list some jobs that you think require no SSN, no physical embodiment, no drug test, no video or audio teleconfrencing? Since you're accusing me of moving the goalposts backwards to make it "easy," let's have you define exactly where you think the goalposts should be, for your intelligence test. Or maybe, replacing a human driver (or some other job), 1:1, for a job a human did yesterday, and a computer does today could be enough? If it's capable of replacing a human, do you then not think the human needed intelligence to do their job?
- Jensson 4y ago
  You can use a real persons contact details as long as the AI does all communication and work. Also it has to be the same AI, no altering the AI after you see the tasks it needs to perform after it gets the job, it has to understand that itself. For teleconferencing it could use text to speech and speech to text, they are pretty good these days so as long as the AI can parse what people say and identify when to speak and what to say it should do fine: https://cloud.google.com/text-to-speech https://cloud.google.com/text-to-speech But it might be easier to find a more hacker friendly job where all you need is somewhere for them to send money and they just demand you to write code and answer emails. There aren't that many such jobs, but they exist and you just need one job to do this.