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There have been 14 so far in 2022 alone. And the year is not even half over yet. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States h

There have been 14 so far in 2022 alone. And the year is not even half over yet. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_th...

throwaway0a5e 4y ago
- krnlpnc 4y ago
  > Per year per 11 million people Oh fun, I can do gymnastics with these numbers too. Let's go ahead and switch "people" for "mammals". Only 1 incident per year, per 18 billion mammals.
  - pessimizer 4y ago
    That would be dumb unless all mammals are potentially involved in school shootings. If you think statistics are easy to manipulate, I'm not sure that the smarter alternative is to ignore them entirely and operate through prejudice and fear.
  - tragictrash 4y ago
    There are three kinds of lies: Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics -Mark Twain
  - mensetmanusman 4y ago
    It’s not gymnastics, per capita statistics matter…
- mihaaly 4y ago
  Gun deaths were the leading killer of US children in 2020: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-61192975 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-61192975 Leading Causes of Death among Children and Adolescents in the United States, 1999 through 2020.: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2201761 https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2201761 Maybe it is not 'regular' if you find a good criteria so that it cannot be classified as 'regular', but it is shokingly often, also leading case now, and a strong upward trend while all else stagnates or goes down (except overdose and poisoning, which also increases recently)
  - barry-cotter 4y ago
    Gun deaths and deaths by school shooting are separate things. Idiots who don’t store their guns in a gun safe or don’t otherwise follow proper gun safety or suicide from improperly secured guns are not school shootings.
pessimizer 4y ago
None of those shootings resulted in more than 2 deaths, and half of them resulted in no deaths. They would barely qualify as a large casualty rate if they all happened at the same school.
- klyrs 4y ago
  Just wondering, were there any shootings at your school? Because there was one at my high school, the year before my freshman year. It was extremely disruptive, and many teachers and students carried that trauma for years. Death is just a number, until it's close to you.
  - throwaway0a5e 4y ago
    We had a student get beaten to death over drug money stuff and another student hang themselves over it shortly thereafter. Death is still a number when it's close to you. Just because it's close to you doesn't make it common. If nobody got rare forms of cancer we wouldn't have those rare forms of cancer but just because those people have families who (presumably) care doesn't mean those rare cancers should be considered big problems. You might get away with running a village on emotion like that but you need to run a country by the numbers.
  - hluska 4y ago
    Thank you for sharing this story - I feel extremely sad for you but also respect your bravery for sharing something so brutal. I'm so sorry that happened at your school.
    - pessimizer 4y ago
      Is it brave to mention that there was a school shooting at your high school?
      - hluska 4y ago
        Yes, that's why I called it brave.

throwaway0a5e 4y ago

krnlpnc 4y ago
> Per year per 11 million people Oh fun, I can do gymnastics with these numbers too. Let's go ahead and switch "people" for "mammals". Only 1 incident per year, per 18 billion mammals.
- pessimizer 4y ago
  That would be dumb unless all mammals are potentially involved in school shootings. If you think statistics are easy to manipulate, I'm not sure that the smarter alternative is to ignore them entirely and operate through prejudice and fear.
- tragictrash 4y ago
  There are three kinds of lies: Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics -Mark Twain
- mensetmanusman 4y ago
  It’s not gymnastics, per capita statistics matter…
mihaaly 4y ago
Gun deaths were the leading killer of US children in 2020: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-61192975 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-61192975 Leading Causes of Death among Children and Adolescents in the United States, 1999 through 2020.: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2201761 https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2201761 Maybe it is not 'regular' if you find a good criteria so that it cannot be classified as 'regular', but it is shokingly often, also leading case now, and a strong upward trend while all else stagnates or goes down (except overdose and poisoning, which also increases recently)
- barry-cotter 4y ago
  Gun deaths and deaths by school shooting are separate things. Idiots who don’t store their guns in a gun safe or don’t otherwise follow proper gun safety or suicide from improperly secured guns are not school shootings.

pessimizer 4y ago

None of those shootings resulted in more than 2 deaths, and half of them resulted in no deaths. They would barely qualify as a large casualty rate if they all happened at the same school.

klyrs 4y ago
Just wondering, were there any shootings at your school? Because there was one at my high school, the year before my freshman year. It was extremely disruptive, and many teachers and students carried that trauma for years. Death is just a number, until it's close to you.
- throwaway0a5e 4y ago
  We had a student get beaten to death over drug money stuff and another student hang themselves over it shortly thereafter. Death is still a number when it's close to you. Just because it's close to you doesn't make it common. If nobody got rare forms of cancer we wouldn't have those rare forms of cancer but just because those people have families who (presumably) care doesn't mean those rare cancers should be considered big problems. You might get away with running a village on emotion like that but you need to run a country by the numbers.
- hluska 4y ago
  Thank you for sharing this story - I feel extremely sad for you but also respect your bravery for sharing something so brutal. I'm so sorry that happened at your school.
  - pessimizer 4y ago
    Is it brave to mention that there was a school shooting at your high school?
    - hluska 4y ago
      Yes, that's why I called it brave.