I think the two of you are using two different but legitimate definitions. GP is not trying to make it mean something it doesn't. 1. Existing independent of or

I think the two of you are using two different but legitimate definitions. GP is not trying to make it mean something it doesn't. 1. Existing independent of or external to the mind; 2. actual or real. Based on observable phenomena; empirical. 3. Uninfluenced by emotions or personal prejudices: synonym: fair. For an example, I write an algorithm to use different seeds and distance functions for the Voronoi diagram to find the one that benefits Republicans the most. It would be deterministic and maybe objective in definition 1 and 2 but it would not fit definition 3. I would say it is heavily influenced by personal prejudice, just one step removed because it is the coders prejudice not the algorithms.