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> I've studied English, not American. Regardless, if debating in good faith you should respond to what people clearly mean, not to what you feel the words they

> I've studied English, not American. Regardless, if debating in good faith you should respond to what people clearly mean, not to what you feel the words they’re using should mean in “correct” English. > Or 67 cabinets, if you prefer. Absolutely nobody is disputing this. The Wikipedia link is unnecessary.

peoplefromibiza 5y ago
> Regardless, if debating in good faith you should respond to what people clearly mean, not to what you feel the words they’re using should mean in “correct” English. you're wrong: I never said I was using the correct English, I said that in the English that I have studied it is called a government. It's called government here too https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_of_Italy#Executive_branch https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_of_Italy#Executive_... I'm not making up words. If in America it means something different it's irrelevant, we're not talking about America. > Absolutely nobody is disputing this. The Wikipedia link is unnecessary. Reptetita iuvant. Anyway, somebody was disputing this https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31353588 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31353588 You have definitely not had 67 different governments since 1946
- School-Cotton 5y ago
  You (probably intentionally) cut off the exact part of the quote that entirely changes its meaning. You are engaging in bad-faith pedantry, and this discussion is now a waste of time.
  - peoplefromibiza 5y ago
    > You are engaging in bad-faith pedantry, and this discussion is now a waste of time. I cut the irrelevant part, I always assume people say things that represent "what they understood or meant". In that case the original post saying " you haven't had 67 governments in the way I mean" is completely useless, irrelevant, pedantic and in the end brought us to this conversation Nobody cares what "government" means to an american when the context is not America. Believe it or not, USA is only a tiny fraction of the World population and that tony fraction is in a good part not American too. What Americans think, believe or mean is irrelevant to 95.75% of the Planet.
- samatman 5y ago
  Here's the full quote: > You have definitely not had 67 different governments since 1946 in the sense that I think was meant.

peoplefromibiza 5y ago

> Regardless, if debating in good faith you should respond to what people clearly mean, not to what you feel the words they’re using should mean in “correct” English. you're wrong: I never said I was using the correct English, I said that in the English that I have studied it is called a government. It's called government here too https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_of_Italy#Executive_branch https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_of_Italy#Executive_... I'm not making up words. If in America it means something different it's irrelevant, we're not talking about America. > Absolutely nobody is disputing this. The Wikipedia link is unnecessary. Reptetita iuvant. Anyway, somebody was disputing this https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31353588 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31353588 You have definitely not had 67 different governments since 1946

School-Cotton 5y ago
You (probably intentionally) cut off the exact part of the quote that entirely changes its meaning. You are engaging in bad-faith pedantry, and this discussion is now a waste of time.
- peoplefromibiza 5y ago
  > You are engaging in bad-faith pedantry, and this discussion is now a waste of time. I cut the irrelevant part, I always assume people say things that represent "what they understood or meant". In that case the original post saying " you haven't had 67 governments in the way I mean" is completely useless, irrelevant, pedantic and in the end brought us to this conversation Nobody cares what "government" means to an american when the context is not America. Believe it or not, USA is only a tiny fraction of the World population and that tony fraction is in a good part not American too. What Americans think, believe or mean is irrelevant to 95.75% of the Planet.
samatman 5y ago
Here's the full quote: > You have definitely not had 67 different governments since 1946 in the sense that I think was meant.