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I think the EU wants to go through easy to rummage through stuff like email, texts, instant messenger (all easy to go through if unencrypted). I think that's wh

I think the EU wants to go through easy to rummage through stuff like email, texts, instant messenger (all easy to go through if unencrypted). I think that's what their warning shot is. Eventually they would like to put spyware in every app/phone and keep tabs on what you're doing. It's the same in America as well. Politician and the police state have no shame when it comes to wanting to take away your privacy "to think of the children" and "what about terrorists?". There is a reason we have search warrants. It's a compromise that has worked for centuries, and I don't see why that has to go out the door with new technologies.

peoplefromibiza 4y ago
Seriously, if you start with "I think EU is turning into Sauron",you then can imply everything, you'll be mostly wrong though. > I think that's what their warning shot is These arguments have been in discussion for at least a decade. Why do you think they want to read your email? What purpose could it serve? Do you really think France will accept to put the email of their citizens out in the clear if Germany refuses? (nations can still delay the implementation of regulations, technically forever) > There is a reason we have search warrants They are still required. CSAM is only what Apple already does (and that's another reason why I don't buy Apple products).
- stjohnswarts 4y ago
  I think kowtowing to ANY group wanting to rifle through texts/email/anything is a bad idea without some legal principle like a very specific warrant has been issued to do it. What these guys want means that all encryption has to have a backdoor so they can look through you private "papers" at will. Yeah, I don't like that, and no I'm not exaggerating. Otherwise, we wouldn't have agreements between countries like Five Eyes. I just don't understand why everyday people just roll over for government abuse of their privacy.
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peoplefromibiza 4y ago

Seriously, if you start with "I think EU is turning into Sauron",you then can imply everything, you'll be mostly wrong though. > I think that's what their warning shot is These arguments have been in discussion for at least a decade. Why do you think they want to read your email? What purpose could it serve? Do you really think France will accept to put the email of their citizens out in the clear if Germany refuses? (nations can still delay the implementation of regulations, technically forever) > There is a reason we have search warrants They are still required. CSAM is only what Apple already does (and that's another reason why I don't buy Apple products).

stjohnswarts 4y ago
I think kowtowing to ANY group wanting to rifle through texts/email/anything is a bad idea without some legal principle like a very specific warrant has been issued to do it. What these guys want means that all encryption has to have a backdoor so they can look through you private "papers" at will. Yeah, I don't like that, and no I'm not exaggerating. Otherwise, we wouldn't have agreements between countries like Five Eyes. I just don't understand why everyday people just roll over for government abuse of their privacy.
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