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That won’t happen here but sure, US type of police overreach makes a better soundbite with horribly vague proposals like this. And people should be scared so I

That won’t happen here but sure, US type of police overreach makes a better soundbite with horribly vague proposals like this. And people should be scared so I guess it’s good; maybe they will protest (probably not though because the children the children).

blub 4y ago
Here where? This is standard procedure in e.g. Germany based on press reports and articles written by lawyers. I don’t think it’s better in other European countries.
adrianN 4y ago
Stuff quite similar to that happens in Germany[1]. Where is "here"? [1] https://www.ccc.de/de/updates/2018/hausdurchsuchungen-bei-vereinsvorstanden-der-zwiebelfreunde-und-im-openlab-augsburg https://www.ccc.de/de/updates/2018/hausdurchsuchungen-bei-ve...
- tluyben2 4y ago
  Netherlands. I wonder if it is similar: I saw a few here and they were friendly, no cuffs, they had a list of IPs, made an appointment to collect the drives etc (and that was with enough proof to know for sure they would find what they were looking for). But sure I can see how it escalates but why would they if there are no guns (usually only with drugs at which points they will come with more force)? Shame about Germany but why don’t we hear these things more; they should be on the front page of HN I guess (and not in German or in any language outside english if it awareness needs to be built)? At least the outline. So which dutch articles did I miss I wonder then; I cannot find any of these kind of overreaches. Also German lawyers seem to be far more trigger happy in a lot of cases than dutch like with copyright and not having your company info on your site etc; seems there is more litigation there like an industry looking for people to ‘sue’. Why aren’t people protesting or are they?
seanw444 4y ago
> That won't happen here Ah, those famous words.
insta_anon 4y ago
I accidentally (e.g. I didn't know) bought a stolen laptop some time ago. The police came at 05:00am, raided my home with guns drawn and took the laptop. So yes, it does happen in Europe as well.
- op00to 4y ago
  yikes! Hope you and your family are ok!
  - insta_anon 4y ago
    All good, after the initial surprise and when they found out that I am neither armed nor a criminal they were quite friendly actually. Still wouldn't want to experience something like this ever again.

blub 4y ago

Here where? This is standard procedure in e.g. Germany based on press reports and articles written by lawyers. I don’t think it’s better in other European countries.

adrianN 4y ago

Stuff quite similar to that happens in Germany[1]. Where is "here"? [1] https://www.ccc.de/de/updates/2018/hausdurchsuchungen-bei-vereinsvorstanden-der-zwiebelfreunde-und-im-openlab-augsburg https://www.ccc.de/de/updates/2018/hausdurchsuchungen-bei-ve...

tluyben2 4y ago
Netherlands. I wonder if it is similar: I saw a few here and they were friendly, no cuffs, they had a list of IPs, made an appointment to collect the drives etc (and that was with enough proof to know for sure they would find what they were looking for). But sure I can see how it escalates but why would they if there are no guns (usually only with drugs at which points they will come with more force)? Shame about Germany but why don’t we hear these things more; they should be on the front page of HN I guess (and not in German or in any language outside english if it awareness needs to be built)? At least the outline. So which dutch articles did I miss I wonder then; I cannot find any of these kind of overreaches. Also German lawyers seem to be far more trigger happy in a lot of cases than dutch like with copyright and not having your company info on your site etc; seems there is more litigation there like an industry looking for people to ‘sue’. Why aren’t people protesting or are they?

seanw444 4y ago

> That won't happen here Ah, those famous words.

insta_anon 4y ago

I accidentally (e.g. I didn't know) bought a stolen laptop some time ago. The police came at 05:00am, raided my home with guns drawn and took the laptop. So yes, it does happen in Europe as well.

op00to 4y ago
yikes! Hope you and your family are ok!
- insta_anon 4y ago
  All good, after the initial surprise and when they found out that I am neither armed nor a criminal they were quite friendly actually. Still wouldn't want to experience something like this ever again.