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I have absolutely no use for the products made by teenage engineering, as I don't have a clue about audio production. But scolling thought their store, I still

by planb 4y ago

I have absolutely no use for the products made by teenage engineering, as I don't have a clue about audio production. But scolling thought their store, I still want to own these beatiful devices.

danielvaughn 4y ago
same! I’m vaguely interested in the idea of programmatically creating music, but I don’t think that’s the TE products are for, but still…I want one.
throw_m239339 4y ago
> I have absolutely no use for the products made by teenage engineering, as I don't have a clue about audio production. But scolling thought their store, I still want to own these beatiful devices. Because you are the target, people who like nice looking hip things and can afford it. That device doesn't do much, doesn't sound particularly good, and certainly is sold to you at a premium. No wonder these products are sold at the MOMA...
- httpsterio 4y ago
  I beg to differ. I mean sure, the OP-1 isn't as versatile as a laptop with a good daw and a few plugins but hardware still has its' place in some producers' gear bag. For a standalone device it's extremely versatile and it does sound good.
  - throw_m239339 4y ago
    > I beg to differ. I mean sure, the OP-1 isn't as versatile as a laptop with a good daw and a few plugins but hardware still has its' place in some producers' gear bag. For a standalone device it's extremely versatile and it does sound good. First, we're not talking about hardware in general but that TE device precisely and second "it sounds good" is really a matter of taste here, the synth engine is very limited and the first version didn't sound really good given its price. This is absolutely a hipster device, just like all TE products. https://teenage.engineering/products/ob-4 https://teenage.engineering/products/ob-4 650€ for a freaking radio? Don't make it about hardware vs software, this red herring has nothing to do with my comment.
    - sdenton4 4y ago
      I've seen the op-1 I'm the stage kits of a bunch of my favorite artists. Nine inch nails, Zola Jesus, Dan Deacon come to mind...
    - verilux68 4y ago
      What was your experience when you tried out the OP-1?
iamricks 4y ago
- crispyambulance 4y ago
  Great design and designers exist everywhere. There's nothing extrinsic to the companies in the US, Europe or Asia that makes any of them better at design. It's all about the internals of the companies themselves. I would say, however, that Teenage Engineering is "small" enough to take the kinds of risks that bigger companies just aren't able to do (even with much more money). Here's a fast company article (https://www.fastcompany.com/3016739/more-than-an-office-teenage-engineerings-minimalist-garage-is-a-tinkerers-paradise https://www.fastcompany.com/3016739/more-than-an-office-teen...) from 2015. They claim wide variety of backgrounds and keep their facilities modest. At the time they released the first incarnation of the OP-1, they had 30 employees. Contrast that with KORG, who a few years ago created a "lab" in Berlin staffed with superstars with intention of creating ground-breaking music tech (https://youtu.be/Y0NY6iUqbEM https://youtu.be/Y0NY6iUqbEM). They clearly poured A LOT of money into that venture. Similar kind of hipster vibe, but what became of it? I don't know but it seems like Teenage Engineering is doing just fine.
  - capableweb 4y ago
    > Contrast that with KORG, who a few years ago created a "lab" in Berlin staffed with superstars with intention of creating ground-breaking music tech (https://youtu.be/Y0NY6iUqbEM https://youtu.be/Y0NY6iUqbEM). They clearly poured A LOT of money into that venture. Similar kind of hipster vibe, but what became of it? I don't know but it seems like Teenage Engineering is doing just fine. That seems to have been kicked off just short of two years ago. Building hardware, especially this kind of hardware, takes a long long time to even reach the prototype stage, even longer to get it out of production. I'm sure the OP-1 Field we saw launched today has been in development since (or even before) the first OP-1 was launched, 10 years ago.
    - janekm 4y ago
      Not to mention that the last 2 years haven't been the easiest for electronics product development ;(
xd1936 4y ago
Same. I have two of their Pocket Operators[1] which I love, and an OB-4 radio[2], but I'm mostly an enthusiast of their work from afar. If you're casually interested in messing around with music, the POs are a lot of fun and relatively inexpensive! 1. https://teenage.engineering/products/po https://teenage.engineering/products/po 2. https://teenage.engineering/products/ob-4 https://teenage.engineering/products/ob-4

by planb 4y ago

I have absolutely no use for the products made by teenage engineering, as I don't have a clue about audio production. But scolling thought their store, I still want to own these beatiful devices.

danielvaughn 4y ago

same! I’m vaguely interested in the idea of programmatically creating music, but I don’t think that’s the TE products are for, but still…I want one.

throw_m239339 4y ago

> I have absolutely no use for the products made by teenage engineering, as I don't have a clue about audio production. But scolling thought their store, I still want to own these beatiful devices. Because you are the target, people who like nice looking hip things and can afford it. That device doesn't do much, doesn't sound particularly good, and certainly is sold to you at a premium. No wonder these products are sold at the MOMA...

httpsterio 4y ago
I beg to differ. I mean sure, the OP-1 isn't as versatile as a laptop with a good daw and a few plugins but hardware still has its' place in some producers' gear bag. For a standalone device it's extremely versatile and it does sound good.
- throw_m239339 4y ago
  > I beg to differ. I mean sure, the OP-1 isn't as versatile as a laptop with a good daw and a few plugins but hardware still has its' place in some producers' gear bag. For a standalone device it's extremely versatile and it does sound good. First, we're not talking about hardware in general but that TE device precisely and second "it sounds good" is really a matter of taste here, the synth engine is very limited and the first version didn't sound really good given its price. This is absolutely a hipster device, just like all TE products. https://teenage.engineering/products/ob-4 https://teenage.engineering/products/ob-4 650€ for a freaking radio? Don't make it about hardware vs software, this red herring has nothing to do with my comment.
  - sdenton4 4y ago
    I've seen the op-1 I'm the stage kits of a bunch of my favorite artists. Nine inch nails, Zola Jesus, Dan Deacon come to mind...
  - verilux68 4y ago
    What was your experience when you tried out the OP-1?

iamricks 4y ago

crispyambulance 4y ago
Great design and designers exist everywhere. There's nothing extrinsic to the companies in the US, Europe or Asia that makes any of them better at design. It's all about the internals of the companies themselves. I would say, however, that Teenage Engineering is "small" enough to take the kinds of risks that bigger companies just aren't able to do (even with much more money). Here's a fast company article (https://www.fastcompany.com/3016739/more-than-an-office-teenage-engineerings-minimalist-garage-is-a-tinkerers-paradise https://www.fastcompany.com/3016739/more-than-an-office-teen...) from 2015. They claim wide variety of backgrounds and keep their facilities modest. At the time they released the first incarnation of the OP-1, they had 30 employees. Contrast that with KORG, who a few years ago created a "lab" in Berlin staffed with superstars with intention of creating ground-breaking music tech (https://youtu.be/Y0NY6iUqbEM https://youtu.be/Y0NY6iUqbEM). They clearly poured A LOT of money into that venture. Similar kind of hipster vibe, but what became of it? I don't know but it seems like Teenage Engineering is doing just fine.
- capableweb 4y ago
  > Contrast that with KORG, who a few years ago created a "lab" in Berlin staffed with superstars with intention of creating ground-breaking music tech (https://youtu.be/Y0NY6iUqbEM https://youtu.be/Y0NY6iUqbEM). They clearly poured A LOT of money into that venture. Similar kind of hipster vibe, but what became of it? I don't know but it seems like Teenage Engineering is doing just fine. That seems to have been kicked off just short of two years ago. Building hardware, especially this kind of hardware, takes a long long time to even reach the prototype stage, even longer to get it out of production. I'm sure the OP-1 Field we saw launched today has been in development since (or even before) the first OP-1 was launched, 10 years ago.
  - janekm 4y ago
    Not to mention that the last 2 years haven't been the easiest for electronics product development ;(

xd1936 4y ago

Same. I have two of their Pocket Operators[1] which I love, and an OB-4 radio[2], but I'm mostly an enthusiast of their work from afar. If you're casually interested in messing around with music, the POs are a lot of fun and relatively inexpensive! 1. https://teenage.engineering/products/po https://teenage.engineering/products/po 2. https://teenage.engineering/products/ob-4 https://teenage.engineering/products/ob-4