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That does not prove your accusation that CIA was meddling in countries that willingly asked to join NATO because they did not want to get invaded by Russia. Al

That does not prove your accusation that CIA was meddling in countries that willingly asked to join NATO because they did not want to get invaded by Russia. Also, you're mischaracterizing the purpose of Operation Gladio.

aa-jv 4y ago
Gladio is literally an organization whose purpose is to ensure the targeted states join NATO or, at least, remain aligned with NATO intentions. States join NATO in order to participate in NATO's war crimes and crimes against humanity, and to be a part of the refactoring of the sovereign states of the world that NATO is engaged in. It is literally the #1 usurper of sovereign democracy.
- stoltzmann 4y ago
  Do you have any sources for your current claims? What you're saying in the first paragraph goes against what you linked earlier.
  - aa-jv 4y ago
    I mean, you've got a lot of studying to do if you're only just now learning about Gladio: https://military-history.fandom.com/wiki/Operation_Gladio https://military-history.fandom.com/wiki/Operation_Gladio See also: https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/94465.pdf https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/9446...
    - stoltzmann 4y ago
      This is literally a copy of the Wikipedia article you listed earlier and it does not support your accusations. Do you have any sources that support any of your other claims?
      - aa-jv 4y ago
        You didn't read it, obviously. Why don't you go and inform yourself about Gladio and what the CIA have been up to in this regard, and then we can discuss things further - you don't seem to know much about it at all. Gladio is really just the tip of the iceberg - you can certainly find more details in the Wikileaks dumps. Just search for "victoria nuland" and check out the first 5 documents ..
        orbital-decay 4y ago
        I actually read the Wikipedia article you provided, including most relevant references. (for the context, I'm from Russia, and @stoltzmann's accusations of shilling certainly go against the spirit of this forum, they are made in bad faith as well, so I downvoted them). The statements made in the article is that the CIA worked with their relevant counterparts (direct financing is unconfirmed) to establish a network of stay-behind organizations in Western Europe, that was supposed to resist the potential Warsaw Pact invasion. It peaked in late 60s at the height of the Cold War, has been substantially cut down since 70s and finally dismantled in 1990, being deemed harmful as the weapon caches it made were often plundered by criminals and domestic terrorists. Details differ from country to country but it was similar in principle everywhere. That organization seems very typical for the Cold War, but I absolutely don't see how it supports your claim that CIA instigated the post-Cold War NATO expansion with this operation, could you please point me at the specific part?

aa-jv 4y ago

Gladio is literally an organization whose purpose is to ensure the targeted states join NATO or, at least, remain aligned with NATO intentions. States join NATO in order to participate in NATO's war crimes and crimes against humanity, and to be a part of the refactoring of the sovereign states of the world that NATO is engaged in. It is literally the #1 usurper of sovereign democracy.

stoltzmann 4y ago
Do you have any sources for your current claims? What you're saying in the first paragraph goes against what you linked earlier.
- aa-jv 4y ago
  I mean, you've got a lot of studying to do if you're only just now learning about Gladio: https://military-history.fandom.com/wiki/Operation_Gladio https://military-history.fandom.com/wiki/Operation_Gladio See also: https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/94465.pdf https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/9446...
  - stoltzmann 4y ago
    This is literally a copy of the Wikipedia article you listed earlier and it does not support your accusations. Do you have any sources that support any of your other claims?
    - aa-jv 4y ago
      You didn't read it, obviously. Why don't you go and inform yourself about Gladio and what the CIA have been up to in this regard, and then we can discuss things further - you don't seem to know much about it at all. Gladio is really just the tip of the iceberg - you can certainly find more details in the Wikileaks dumps. Just search for "victoria nuland" and check out the first 5 documents ..
      - orbital-decay 4y ago
        I actually read the Wikipedia article you provided, including most relevant references. (for the context, I'm from Russia, and @stoltzmann's accusations of shilling certainly go against the spirit of this forum, they are made in bad faith as well, so I downvoted them). The statements made in the article is that the CIA worked with their relevant counterparts (direct financing is unconfirmed) to establish a network of stay-behind organizations in Western Europe, that was supposed to resist the potential Warsaw Pact invasion. It peaked in late 60s at the height of the Cold War, has been substantially cut down since 70s and finally dismantled in 1990, being deemed harmful as the weapon caches it made were often plundered by criminals and domestic terrorists. Details differ from country to country but it was similar in principle everywhere. That organization seems very typical for the Cold War, but I absolutely don't see how it supports your claim that CIA instigated the post-Cold War NATO expansion with this operation, could you please point me at the specific part?