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For the same money it would be possible to buy the full version of a DAW of your choice, Kontakt, Arturia V-Collection and a PC to run them all on. I'm sure the

For the same money it would be possible to buy the full version of a DAW of your choice, Kontakt, Arturia V-Collection and a PC to run them all on. I'm sure the OP-1 is fun, but I doubt it's £2,000 worth of fun.

capableweb 4y ago
And the debate of hardware vs software continues! It's true that if you just compare the costs, it might be cheaper to go the software route. But I mainly make music to go away from the computer, as I spend a lot of my days programming on one already. And the ability of pulling me away from the computer you can't put a price on :) Plus, fiddling with real knobs that affect the sound in real-time, having a keyboard with a heavy feel, being able to turn on the hardware and instantly be able to use it (no fucking around with forced updates) and the ability to mod your own hardware with just a solder-iron is just like really really fun.
- motogpjimbo 4y ago
  In hardware terms, it's the same price as a Yamaha Montage. The OP-1 isn't good value for money no matter how you look at it.
  - goldenkey 4y ago
    Utility decreases as one acquires more money. For someone with a lot of money the OP-1 might be worth it. But yes, on an objective scale, the OP-1 is not competitive.
  - capableweb 4y ago
    Sorry, didn't want to give the impression that the OP-1 (original or this one) is good money spent, because that I don't think. The price of this (+ the rest of their products) are wildly over-priced. I was more talking about the whole software VS hardware side of things. If I had $2000 to throw around, I'd buy a Syntakt + Digitone/Digitakt instead and get a setup that could do whatever I want + more.
    - motogpjimbo 4y ago
      No, I was just pointing out that its functionality doesn't really justify the price tag when you compare it with what's also available elsewhere. £2,000 would also buy you a Korg Minilogue XD, a Korg Opsix, a Korg Wavestate AND some form of groovebox or hardware sequencer to tie them all together, if you like small form factor gear.
      - capableweb 4y ago
        > No, I was just pointing out that its functionality doesn't really justify the price tag when you compare it with what's also available elsewhere Yeah, I agree with that, which I thought my previous comment made clear, maybe I wasn't clear enough.
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- hammyhavoc 4y ago
  Calling an OP-1 "hardware" is a real stretch considering it is digital and doesn't even have velocity sensitive keys.
skinpop 4y ago
I hate working with DAWS and plugins. I went all in on modular a few years ago and wish I had done so a decade earlier.

capableweb 4y ago

And the debate of hardware vs software continues! It's true that if you just compare the costs, it might be cheaper to go the software route. But I mainly make music to go away from the computer, as I spend a lot of my days programming on one already. And the ability of pulling me away from the computer you can't put a price on :) Plus, fiddling with real knobs that affect the sound in real-time, having a keyboard with a heavy feel, being able to turn on the hardware and instantly be able to use it (no fucking around with forced updates) and the ability to mod your own hardware with just a solder-iron is just like really really fun.

motogpjimbo 4y ago
In hardware terms, it's the same price as a Yamaha Montage. The OP-1 isn't good value for money no matter how you look at it.
- goldenkey 4y ago
  Utility decreases as one acquires more money. For someone with a lot of money the OP-1 might be worth it. But yes, on an objective scale, the OP-1 is not competitive.
- capableweb 4y ago
  Sorry, didn't want to give the impression that the OP-1 (original or this one) is good money spent, because that I don't think. The price of this (+ the rest of their products) are wildly over-priced. I was more talking about the whole software VS hardware side of things. If I had $2000 to throw around, I'd buy a Syntakt + Digitone/Digitakt instead and get a setup that could do whatever I want + more.
  - motogpjimbo 4y ago
    No, I was just pointing out that its functionality doesn't really justify the price tag when you compare it with what's also available elsewhere. £2,000 would also buy you a Korg Minilogue XD, a Korg Opsix, a Korg Wavestate AND some form of groovebox or hardware sequencer to tie them all together, if you like small form factor gear.
    - capableweb 4y ago
      > No, I was just pointing out that its functionality doesn't really justify the price tag when you compare it with what's also available elsewhere Yeah, I agree with that, which I thought my previous comment made clear, maybe I wasn't clear enough.
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hammyhavoc 4y ago
Calling an OP-1 "hardware" is a real stretch considering it is digital and doesn't even have velocity sensitive keys.

skinpop 4y ago

I hate working with DAWS and plugins. I went all in on modular a few years ago and wish I had done so a decade earlier.