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Do you have a single fact to back up your accusation of CIA meddling with NATO membership? The truth is, that countries want to join NATO so that Russia does n
by stoltzmann 4y ago
Do you have a single fact to back up your accusation of CIA meddling with NATO membership?
The truth is, that countries want to join NATO so that Russia does not invade them. That's the sole reason.
- aa-jv 4y agoThats the propaganda/PR reason, readily parroted throughout a mainstream media that is literally owned by the people selling bombs to NATO. You might want to start your journey of enlightenment here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio#Operations_in_NATO_countries https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio#Operations_in...
- stoltzmann 4y agoDo you have a single fact to back up your accusation of CIA meddling with NATO membership? Your link does not prove that. Also, you have not provided any sources on the dismissal of reasons for joining NATO. Please do link to them if you have any evidence. As is, it looks like you're parroting anti-NATO propaganda - it seems you're acting in bad faith. Are you paid for by the Russians?
- aa-jv 4y agoThe existence of GLADIO is all the evidence one needs. Its purpose is to ensure any and all impediments to the expansion of NATO are removed. The "Ma' Russians!" claim is not worth responding to, but I'm an Australian, have lived for decades in the US and in Eastern Europe, and I no longer play the nationalist game. I've been following the Wests' war crimes and crimes against humanity since 9/11, which has led me to the conclusion that yes indeed, we are the bad guys for starting World War 3 in 2003 with the illegal invasion of Iraq. Nice try though.
- stoltzmann 4y agoThat does not prove your accusation that CIA was meddling in countries that willingly asked to join NATO because they did not want to get invaded by Russia. Also, you're mischaracterizing the purpose of Operation Gladio.
- aa-jv 4y agoGladio is literally an organization whose purpose is to ensure the targeted states join NATO or, at least, remain aligned with NATO intentions. States join NATO in order to participate in NATO's war crimes and crimes against humanity, and to be a part of the refactoring of the sovereign states of the world that NATO is engaged in. It is literally the #1 usurper of sovereign democracy.
- stoltzmann 4y agoDo you have any sources for your current claims? What you're saying in the first paragraph goes against what you linked earlier.
- aa-jv 4y agoI mean, you've got a lot of studying to do if you're only just now learning about Gladio: https://military-history.fandom.com/wiki/Operation_Gladio https://military-history.fandom.com/wiki/Operation_Gladio See also: https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/94465.pdf https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/9446...
- stoltzmann 4y agoThis is literally a copy of the Wikipedia article you listed earlier and it does not support your accusations. Do you have any sources that support any of your other claims?
- aa-jv 4y agoYou didn't read it, obviously. Why don't you go and inform yourself about Gladio and what the CIA have been up to in this regard, and then we can discuss things further - you don't seem to know much about it at all. Gladio is really just the tip of the iceberg - you can certainly find more details in the Wikileaks dumps. Just search for "victoria nuland" and check out the first 5 documents ..
- selimthegrim 4y agoCompare Iraq and Ukraine as countries. Are they remotely comparable as aggressors under international law? Recall both USSR and former SFRY sold weapons by the boatload to Iraq.