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While 100$ is a lot of money, it is not so much in business environment, I mean even a cheap software developer costs probably more than 5000$ (full cost calcul

While 100$ is a lot of money, it is not so much in business environment, I mean even a cheap software developer costs probably more than 5000$ (full cost calculation) per month. But complicated pricing is a big no-no. I mean everytime you find you need a slightly different plan going again through the purchase department?

rowanajmarshall 4y ago
I think Heroku just got a dead zone in pricing. It's too expensive for a single developer (for comfort at least), but any 'proper' company, even with only a couple of full-time developers, can afford the overhead to set things up in AWS.
- nicoburns 4y ago
  Disagree on a small company having time to setup AWS. I work in a 2 man team, and that would be about the last thing on our priority list. We spend ~$500/month on Heroku and while that’s a lot more than it would be elsewhere, it’s also non-issue. Heroku’s main problems are: 1. There are now comparable competitors that are cheaper. 2. They seem to have stopped maintaining it properly which is gradually leading a loss of trust.
- neon_electro 4y ago
  My data point in contrast to your suggestion is a company with more than a dozen developers, and a loose idea of "let's migrate from Heroku to AWS without planning much or actually educating our developers on how to use AWS to be as productive as they were in Heroku"; more than a year later, there was definitely some success to speak of, but there was a lot of realization that some of our systems were just fine on Heroku, and that we didn't have the DevOps talent to help us manage AWS better than Heroku was already helping us.
bpicolo 4y ago
Suffice to say a “cheap” developer costs way more than $6k/year
- andi999 4y ago
  The 100 was per month so the 6k is also per month. But let me ask: if no time is specified, is salary alway considered per year?
  - cweagans 4y ago
    Depends on your locale. In the US, yes. Many parts of Europe (all?), no.
  - bpicolo 4y ago
    Thought it said $500 when I first read it. Must have misread
Fradow 4y ago
If you have a purchase department, you likely are on an entreprise plan, for which the purchase department is in direct contact with a Salesforce account executive, and that becomes a non-issue. The purchase department negotiate directly Salesforce based on projected usage, with periodic re-evaluation.

rowanajmarshall 4y ago

I think Heroku just got a dead zone in pricing. It's too expensive for a single developer (for comfort at least), but any 'proper' company, even with only a couple of full-time developers, can afford the overhead to set things up in AWS.

nicoburns 4y ago
Disagree on a small company having time to setup AWS. I work in a 2 man team, and that would be about the last thing on our priority list. We spend ~$500/month on Heroku and while that’s a lot more than it would be elsewhere, it’s also non-issue. Heroku’s main problems are: 1. There are now comparable competitors that are cheaper. 2. They seem to have stopped maintaining it properly which is gradually leading a loss of trust.
neon_electro 4y ago
My data point in contrast to your suggestion is a company with more than a dozen developers, and a loose idea of "let's migrate from Heroku to AWS without planning much or actually educating our developers on how to use AWS to be as productive as they were in Heroku"; more than a year later, there was definitely some success to speak of, but there was a lot of realization that some of our systems were just fine on Heroku, and that we didn't have the DevOps talent to help us manage AWS better than Heroku was already helping us.

bpicolo 4y ago

Suffice to say a “cheap” developer costs way more than $6k/year

andi999 4y ago
The 100 was per month so the 6k is also per month. But let me ask: if no time is specified, is salary alway considered per year?
- cweagans 4y ago
  Depends on your locale. In the US, yes. Many parts of Europe (all?), no.
- bpicolo 4y ago
  Thought it said $500 when I first read it. Must have misread

Fradow 4y ago

If you have a purchase department, you likely are on an entreprise plan, for which the purchase department is in direct contact with a Salesforce account executive, and that becomes a non-issue. The purchase department negotiate directly Salesforce based on projected usage, with periodic re-evaluation.