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They're not talking points. They're just as circumstantial at the wet market. Your hazmat comment makes no sense. Spreading happens at high density areas. Or

They're not talking points. They're just as circumstantial at the wet market. Your hazmat comment makes no sense. Spreading happens at high density areas. Origin is not the same as spreading. I totally agree with your final sentiment if I ignored all the new revelations. In light of those revelations, that I am not sure you have investigated, it becomes increasingly hard maintain wet market as primary source.

Maursault 4y ago
The wet market stands out as the most likely culprit, because conditions existed there that are identical to what conditions we would expect a pandemic to arise from, because every other pandemic ever was caused in the same way in the same conditions, all of them, not just some, every single pandemic known was caused by conditions precisely, exactly like those found at the wet market. And, again, there have been dozens of lab leaks where contagions escaped labs, and as of yet, none have caused any pandemic, not even outbreaks. So first of all, you need to prove it is even possible a lab leak could cause a pandemic. Because you are assuming that, and it certainly is not clear that is the case. In fact, all evidence points to the contrary... because it has never ever happened. Not ever, not even once in 100 years.
- skhr0680 4y ago
  There’s a first time for everything, right? Don’t you think that it’s a pretty big coincidence that out of all the wet markets in the world, COVID-19 started in the one in a city with a major coronavirus research lab?
  - Maursault 4y ago
    > There’s a first time for everything, right? That's a lie. One counter example is there will be no first time that we get more energy out of a machine than we put in, because Conservation of Energy forbids this. But there are an infinite number of counter-examples to prove your statement is false.

Maursault 4y ago

The wet market stands out as the most likely culprit, because conditions existed there that are identical to what conditions we would expect a pandemic to arise from, because every other pandemic ever was caused in the same way in the same conditions, all of them, not just some, every single pandemic known was caused by conditions precisely, exactly like those found at the wet market. And, again, there have been dozens of lab leaks where contagions escaped labs, and as of yet, none have caused any pandemic, not even outbreaks. So first of all, you need to prove it is even possible a lab leak could cause a pandemic. Because you are assuming that, and it certainly is not clear that is the case. In fact, all evidence points to the contrary... because it has never ever happened. Not ever, not even once in 100 years.

skhr0680 4y ago
There’s a first time for everything, right? Don’t you think that it’s a pretty big coincidence that out of all the wet markets in the world, COVID-19 started in the one in a city with a major coronavirus research lab?
- Maursault 4y ago
  > There’s a first time for everything, right? That's a lie. One counter example is there will be no first time that we get more energy out of a machine than we put in, because Conservation of Energy forbids this. But there are an infinite number of counter-examples to prove your statement is false.