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Is that a rhetorical question? I'm bashing the EU because they are trying to create a surveillance state.

• peoplefromibiza 4y ago
  > I'm bashing the EU because they are trying to create a surveillance state. If that was true, we would all be worried. Have you ever thought that your paranoia is not proof of anything? Meanwhile: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_surveillance_in_the_United_States https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_surveillance_in_the_Uni... https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/us-security-agency-spied-merkel-other-top-european-officials-through-danish-2021-05-30/ https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/us-security-agency-spie... I am still worried about facts, especially those carried out by agencies working secretively under practically no control by the people, that sometimes also spy on those same people they are sworn to protect. Anyway, EU is not a State, so EU can't technically build a surveillance State. EU is not the NSA.
  • DontMindit 4y ago
    EU and NSA, same actors, different starting conditions
    • peoplefromibiza 4y ago
      > EU and NSA, same actors, different starting conditions that's frankly one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read in my entire life. Care to explain what's your rationale behind it? Where's, for example, the European Snowden? Where's proof of EU spying not only allied leaders, which is already bad enough, but the citizens of the country they work for?
      • SamPatt 4y ago
        The European Snowden was Snowden. The UK is a part of the Five Eyes and Snowden was stationed in Switzerland while doing mass surveillance.
        • ClumsyPilot 4y ago
          Five eyes does not include EU: it's almost every western nation except eu!
        • peoplefromibiza 4y ago
          > The UK is a part of the Five Eyes UK is not EU > Snowden was stationed in Switzerland Switzerland is not EU
          • DontMindit 4y ago
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