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> Trauma has become reduced to a trope And here in lies the problem. Trauma and reactions to it have always existed. Perhaps in the past, people had communitie

> Trauma has become reduced to a trope And here in lies the problem. Trauma and reactions to it have always existed. Perhaps in the past, people had communities to lean on and help them cope. Or they just drank themselves to death. (Always a popular option.) Mental illness has also existed for a very long time. Schizophrenia isn’t a new disease. It’s just a new, better understood label. The science behind psychology is still very new in the long view of history. And as with all science, people have run away with it. In recent history, radiation was seen as healthy and Radium was a fad. Eventually we learned what Radium was and stopped that nonsense. Our understanding of trauma will change too. We’re still in the discovery phase of this science. Mental health is no longer a taboo topic. And people are running away with it, for one reason or another. Personally, I welcome the change, but it’s going to be a rough few decades before this settles down. If someone can use something for attention, they will.

pessimizer 4y ago
This is ahistorical. Psychology has fixated on trauma as the source of neurosis since https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Breuer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Breuer and Anna O., and the body of work behind it is almost entirely pseudoscience. > Schizophrenia isn’t a new disease. It’s just a new, better understood label. Really? That's https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugen_Bleuler https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugen_Bleuler, a contemporary of Breuer and Freud. It's not new, refers to a vague cluster of symptoms rather than a specific disease, and it's not in any way understood. IMO, what's happened is that everybody became an amateur psychologist, effectively medicalizing gossip. You can't just say that you don't like someone anymore, or that they're an asshole, you have to diagnose them. Ironically, if they wear that diagnosis around as a badge of honor, you're not allowed to notice it or consider it in any decisionmaking involving that person, lest you become an abuser. Disguising gossip as commentary or insight is the addiction. edit: and the seminal contribution to the victims' communities that politics has now become a battle between was made by big pharma financing patients' groups for specific diseases and using them as lobbying organizations to put pressure on the FDA and insurance companies.
- flatline 4y ago
  I think in the context of the parent post, 1800s is recent. There’s a different between someone having narcissistic traits and being diagnosed with NPD, but we casually say both of them are narcissists. Everyone has some of those traits, they just don’t run their lives. All language is fundamentally shorthand for real or imagined phenomena, and can be both descriptive and misleading. Clusters of personality traits can be enlightening even in the context of gossip!
  - kayodelycaon 4y ago
    1800s would be recent in the scales I’m talking about.
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- CoolBreezeTM 4y ago
  > It's not new, refers to a vague cluster of symptoms rather than a specific disease, and it's not in any way understood. As I understand it, this is is an exaggeration. There have been numerous genes that have been found to be associated with Schizophrenic patients (although no single genetic cause exists). There are preventative prenatal trials ongoing. While science may not have a cure, we have inklings of a cause. If you'd like a pop-culture book, I'd recommend you read Hidden Valley Road.

pessimizer 4y ago

This is ahistorical. Psychology has fixated on trauma as the source of neurosis since https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Breuer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Breuer and Anna O., and the body of work behind it is almost entirely pseudoscience. > Schizophrenia isn’t a new disease. It’s just a new, better understood label. Really? That's https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugen_Bleuler https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugen_Bleuler, a contemporary of Breuer and Freud. It's not new, refers to a vague cluster of symptoms rather than a specific disease, and it's not in any way understood. IMO, what's happened is that everybody became an amateur psychologist, effectively medicalizing gossip. You can't just say that you don't like someone anymore, or that they're an asshole, you have to diagnose them. Ironically, if they wear that diagnosis around as a badge of honor, you're not allowed to notice it or consider it in any decisionmaking involving that person, lest you become an abuser. Disguising gossip as commentary or insight is the addiction. edit: and the seminal contribution to the victims' communities that politics has now become a battle between was made by big pharma financing patients' groups for specific diseases and using them as lobbying organizations to put pressure on the FDA and insurance companies.

flatline 4y ago
I think in the context of the parent post, 1800s is recent. There’s a different between someone having narcissistic traits and being diagnosed with NPD, but we casually say both of them are narcissists. Everyone has some of those traits, they just don’t run their lives. All language is fundamentally shorthand for real or imagined phenomena, and can be both descriptive and misleading. Clusters of personality traits can be enlightening even in the context of gossip!
- kayodelycaon 4y ago
  1800s would be recent in the scales I’m talking about.
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CoolBreezeTM 4y ago
> It's not new, refers to a vague cluster of symptoms rather than a specific disease, and it's not in any way understood. As I understand it, this is is an exaggeration. There have been numerous genes that have been found to be associated with Schizophrenic patients (although no single genetic cause exists). There are preventative prenatal trials ongoing. While science may not have a cure, we have inklings of a cause. If you'd like a pop-culture book, I'd recommend you read Hidden Valley Road.