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What a nice collection of strawmans. >1. He claims that the entire "outdoor" movement was created by Oil and Gas [...] No, he says that outdoor experiences ar
by moralestapia 5y ago
What a nice collection of strawmans.
>1. He claims that the entire "outdoor" movement was created by Oil and Gas [...]
No, he says that outdoor experiences are made possible in big part thanks to Oil and Gas, because pretty much every product you bring with you comes from Oil and Gas. I agree with this.
>2. [...] there is just currently no better substitute performance wise for petroleum based products
He states this in the video, this is pretty much the basis of the argument he's presenting.
>3. The original founder of the TNF (now deceased) bought tons and tons of land throughout Chile
No one is talking about Douglas Tompkins ... I fail to see what's the point you're trying to make. TNF was sold on 2000, that was twenty two years ago. How are you trying to link this with "the original founder" of TNF? And how does that change anything? Please explain otherwise this is just weird.
>and is just a hit piece specifically on TNF
Yes, it's literally on the URL of the website and the video.
>Who is paying for this advertisement and what is their motivation?
Oil and Gas companies?
I actually enjoyed the video as I think it balances out things and sets the record straight on how all of these "green" brands actually have a HUGE environmental footprint that they kind of push under the rug whenever they can.
- pmoriarty 5y agoYou make some really good points, but it could be said in a much more cordial way. Per the site guidelines[1]: "Be kind. Don't be snarky. Have curious conversation; don't cross-examine. Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community." "When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names. "That is idiotic; 1 + 1 is 2, not 3" can be shortened to "1 + 1 is 2, not 3."" "Assume good faith." [1] - https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- moralestapia 5y agoYou're right, I removed a couple of snarky remarks that were unnecessary.