3 ms·

Isn't this the case for most interviews? You could simply Google in almost all scenarios. Also, you can fail a single interview and still pass assuming all othe

Isn't this the case for most interviews? You could simply Google in almost all scenarios. Also, you can fail a single interview and still pass assuming all other interviews go well.

andy_ppp 4y ago
Using Google is the expected real world situation no? I think being able to figure something out you don't know is better than demonstrating something you know perfectly. You'll find out much more about someone if they can do this rather than asking them mundane syntax questions or if they pre-learned how to reverse a binary tree.
- Froedlich 4y ago
  I've worked on several projects that used "Black Chamber" development. That is, local LAN only, with no access to the internet, and no internet-capable "personal electronic devices" or cellular phones permitted in the development area. You had whatever paper documentation you brought yourself, what was in your head, and whatever was in the /documents directory for that project. It's a different work mindset. I've since moved to a sysadmin position, running a closed network. When programmers decided they couldn't hack being cut off from the net, they'd quit. Dealing with vendors who signed a contract swearing their product didn't need internet access to install or function, when it won't even complete the install without internet access, is more awkward. Particularly when we call the lawyers in. Because that's why we tediously explained the while "no internet" thing in the contract. That they signed. No, not even for just a few minutes. And by the way, can you explain why your installer times out trying to contact servers in three different countries? Our network admin is curious...
  - k10er 4y ago
    I've worked in these environments before (not as a programmer though). It definitely tests your skill and you can identify who can solve problems on their own. Hopefully you have an additional network that you can do research on.
  - andy_ppp 4y ago
    Dropbox is literally creating a vector for copying your files to the Internet...
- k10er 4y ago
  When I interview a candidate, if they don't know the answer but say "they could Google it" I would then ask them what they would Google. If what they Google would provide them the correct answer, I'm OK with someone who knows how and when to Google something. Those that don't think about researching themselves usually end up asking me in-person. And I usually then ask them if they have done any research themselves.

Isn't this the case for most interviews? You could simply Google in almost all scenarios. Also, you can fail a single interview and still pass assuming all other interviews go well.

andy_ppp 4y ago

Using Google is the expected real world situation no? I think being able to figure something out you don't know is better than demonstrating something you know perfectly. You'll find out much more about someone if they can do this rather than asking them mundane syntax questions or if they pre-learned how to reverse a binary tree.

Froedlich 4y ago
I've worked on several projects that used "Black Chamber" development. That is, local LAN only, with no access to the internet, and no internet-capable "personal electronic devices" or cellular phones permitted in the development area. You had whatever paper documentation you brought yourself, what was in your head, and whatever was in the /documents directory for that project. It's a different work mindset. I've since moved to a sysadmin position, running a closed network. When programmers decided they couldn't hack being cut off from the net, they'd quit. Dealing with vendors who signed a contract swearing their product didn't need internet access to install or function, when it won't even complete the install without internet access, is more awkward. Particularly when we call the lawyers in. Because that's why we tediously explained the while "no internet" thing in the contract. That they signed. No, not even for just a few minutes. And by the way, can you explain why your installer times out trying to contact servers in three different countries? Our network admin is curious...
- k10er 4y ago
  I've worked in these environments before (not as a programmer though). It definitely tests your skill and you can identify who can solve problems on their own. Hopefully you have an additional network that you can do research on.
- andy_ppp 4y ago
  Dropbox is literally creating a vector for copying your files to the Internet...
k10er 4y ago
When I interview a candidate, if they don't know the answer but say "they could Google it" I would then ask them what they would Google. If what they Google would provide them the correct answer, I'm OK with someone who knows how and when to Google something. Those that don't think about researching themselves usually end up asking me in-person. And I usually then ask them if they have done any research themselves.