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>air traffic controllers were able to locate the plane on radar and walk the passenger through how to land the small plane Are ATCOs actually trained for this
by orbital-decay 4y ago
>air traffic controllers were able to locate the plane on radar and walk the passenger through how to land the small plane
Are ATCOs actually trained for this kind of situation?
- Overtonwindow 4y agoYes, in most cases, but also modern aircraft over the last 50 years has become very safe. The plane practically flies itself.
- zokier 4y agoI don't know if I'd call Cessna 208 particularly modern, it is 40 year old model
- jolux 4y agoYeah but I thought takeoff and landing were the two parts that still required mostly manual control?
- haunter 4y agoAutoland has been a (mostly emergency) feature for years https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autoland https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autoland It might have been installed on the plane https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-ruFmgTpqA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-ruFmgTpqA https://www.easa.europa.eu/community/topics/emergency-autoland-0 https://www.easa.europa.eu/community/topics/emergency-autola...
- outworlder 4y agoAutoland in a Caravan?!
- sandworm101 4y agoIf the weather conditions are favorable, there isn't much needed. This would have been a very stable aircraft on its own. If the controls are setup properly in advance of the runway, it will descend and "land" with little input. In all likelihood they used a long approach, strait-in, to an airfield totally cleared of all other traffic. He would have had a strait shot in from many miles away. The important decision was to keep him following the coastline. A random aircraft over florida land would be a nightmare to locate and deal with on radar, even if the transponder was functional. Keeping him following the coastline would have made the fix much simpler.
- Sharlin 4y agoNot necessarily, but pilots usually fly those manually because a) they’re the exciting parts b) a certain number of manual takeoffs/landings per year are required to stay certified. (EDIT: This was about airliners, a Cessna is definitely 100% manual!)
- HWR_14 4y agoAs far as I understand, takeoff and landing requires manual control in the same way, or for the same reason, Tesla autopilot requires hands on the wheel. It's mostly liability and trust issues.
- civil_engineer 4y agoA Cessna Caravan airplane does not land itself. It's a thoroughly manual process. As a pilot, I'm in awe of the controller and passenger for being able to pull this off.
- joadha 4y ago> The plane practically flies itself. Personally, I would perhaps allow this turn of phrase in reference to take-off and cruising, depending on equipment and assuming VFR, but I'm not sure I would ever say this about LANDING any plane. Source: I'm an occasional student-pilot.
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- jzawodn 4y agoNot really. The controller who helped was a flight instructor. If there's one around (sometimes there is), they're usually the best option.
- squeaky-clean 4y agoI've listened to a few recordings of similar situations online and if there's no flight instructor there, and the plane has enough fuel to keep circling for a while, they often call one up to come to the airport and help while keeping the amateur in a safe pattern until they arrive.
- spywaregorilla 4y agoOne of the better snl's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGRcJQ9tMbY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGRcJQ9tMbY
- mauvehaus 4y agoAs long as we're celebrating the Scottish accent: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqAu-DDlINs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqAu-DDlINs Never gets old :-)
- DonHopkins 4y agoOh imagine, the delights of the Banter, frozen in celluloid! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7T5K1HxEBCU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7T5K1HxEBCU
- zokier 4y agoI think more typically (if there is such thing for these scenarios) atc tries get hold of some instructor or even a pilot it no instructor is found instead of instructing themselves.