5 ms·

It isn't discrimination to actively search out minority hires and to encourage and help them apply to an open interview process. This is called positive action.

It isn't discrimination to actively search out minority hires and to encourage and help them apply to an open interview process. This is called positive action. The actual selection process cannot discriminate. There's obviously a lot of Twitter comments to take in and out of context, but just because you put some [rightly] questionable comments next to positive action doesn't mean discriminatory hiring processes.

bin_bash 4y ago
> It is illegal for an employer to publish a job advertisement that shows a preference for or discourages someone from applying for a job because of his or her race, color, religion, sex (including gender identity, sexual orientation, and pregnancy), national origin, age (40 or older), disability or genetic information. > For example, a help-wanted ad that seeks "females" or "recent college graduates" may discourage men and people over 40 from applying and may violate the law. https://www.eeoc.gov/prohibited-employment-policiespractices https://www.eeoc.gov/prohibited-employment-policiespractices
- oliwarner 4y ago
  But that's demonstrably not the case here. Their job adverts make no mention of that stuff (other than to point out that they're equal opportunity). This is a hiring manager offering to help people apply. You can be as pro-whateveryoulike as you want to be at that stage.
  - bin_bash 4y ago
    That tweet is a job advertisement. It's an advertisement for a job.
  - yessirwhatever 4y ago
    It is very much the case. Circumstantial evidence is indirect evidence that does not, on its face, prove a fact in issue but gives rise to a logical inference that the fact exists. Most criminal convictions are based on circumstantial evidence, although it must be adequate to meet established standards of proof. The fact that she blocked access to her social media tells me that she has lots to hide.
    - oliwarner 4y ago
      Circumstantial evidence of what? She explicitly said: > When I offer to prioritize BIPOC conversations, I'm offering a little equity: a chance to offer a little advice, answer questions, or give a little encouragement. I also can sometimes give portfolio feedback, or an honest evaluation on where an application might go. This is clearly pre-application support. There's no suggestion that other people won't get it, or that their applications won't be dealt with fairly. That would be illegal. Offering pre-app help to disadvantaged and under-represented groups is not. I'm coming at this from a British and European standpoint but our rights here aren't that dissimilar. The guidance on Positive Action is much closer to what she's doing than the crime you're inferring. https://www.equalityhumanrights.com/en/advice-and-guidance/employers-what-positive-action-workplace https://www.equalityhumanrights.com/en/advice-and-guidance/e... And you'd block access to your social platforms if you had this shit raining down on you, I guarantee it.
      - deleted 4y ago
        [deleted]

bin_bash 4y ago

> It is illegal for an employer to publish a job advertisement that shows a preference for or discourages someone from applying for a job because of his or her race, color, religion, sex (including gender identity, sexual orientation, and pregnancy), national origin, age (40 or older), disability or genetic information. > For example, a help-wanted ad that seeks "females" or "recent college graduates" may discourage men and people over 40 from applying and may violate the law. https://www.eeoc.gov/prohibited-employment-policiespractices https://www.eeoc.gov/prohibited-employment-policiespractices

oliwarner 4y ago
But that's demonstrably not the case here. Their job adverts make no mention of that stuff (other than to point out that they're equal opportunity). This is a hiring manager offering to help people apply. You can be as pro-whateveryoulike as you want to be at that stage.
- bin_bash 4y ago
  That tweet is a job advertisement. It's an advertisement for a job.
- yessirwhatever 4y ago
  It is very much the case. Circumstantial evidence is indirect evidence that does not, on its face, prove a fact in issue but gives rise to a logical inference that the fact exists. Most criminal convictions are based on circumstantial evidence, although it must be adequate to meet established standards of proof. The fact that she blocked access to her social media tells me that she has lots to hide.
  - oliwarner 4y ago
    Circumstantial evidence of what? She explicitly said: > When I offer to prioritize BIPOC conversations, I'm offering a little equity: a chance to offer a little advice, answer questions, or give a little encouragement. I also can sometimes give portfolio feedback, or an honest evaluation on where an application might go. This is clearly pre-application support. There's no suggestion that other people won't get it, or that their applications won't be dealt with fairly. That would be illegal. Offering pre-app help to disadvantaged and under-represented groups is not. I'm coming at this from a British and European standpoint but our rights here aren't that dissimilar. The guidance on Positive Action is much closer to what she's doing than the crime you're inferring. https://www.equalityhumanrights.com/en/advice-and-guidance/employers-what-positive-action-workplace https://www.equalityhumanrights.com/en/advice-and-guidance/e... And you'd block access to your social platforms if you had this shit raining down on you, I guarantee it.
    - deleted 4y ago
      [deleted]