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How many people in India had exactly the same idea at the same time? If 1 billion people suddenly all wanted to go to the same restaurant, or do anything that

How many people in India had exactly the same idea at the same time? If 1 billion people suddenly all wanted to go to the same restaurant, or do anything that involves certain form of capacity, that system would collapse. Then, companies want to keep people under H1B as long as possible because H1B is a form of control.

goodpoint 5y ago
...then the restaurant would simply book you a table in a FIFO manner. Once and for all. Be it tomorrow or in a month or in 12 years. Then you can decide to wait or cancel. Very simple.
shuckles 5y ago
Two great American universities chose to admit this man. This isn’t some story about thundering hoards — he was invited to the country.
- 29athrowaway 5y ago
  And shortly after he entered the country, studied and then worked for many years. Did he have to wait outside for 18 years? No. Was he prevented for working? No. Considering how saturated the system is, I see a working system and a happy person that lived, studied and worked in the US for 18 years.
  - shuckles 5y ago
    You keep claiming the system is “at capacity” with no evidence, and the psychological trauma it inflicts as inevitable. How does it strain the system differently to process an Indian applicant than an Australian one?
    - 29athrowaway 5y ago
      I went through the same process as this man, so I am speaking from experience. The actual impact to my life was negligible, as all of the actual work was done by immigration lawyers. The only thing I had to do was submitting some info to the attorneys, a biometrics appointment and a short interview. And paying fees, and presenting a vaccination record. And the system is at capacity because there are long waiting times, which is the definition of a saturated system. And this is public, published information. https://egov.uscis.gov/processing-times/ https://egov.uscis.gov/processing-times/ If the guy has anxiety and checks the case status every 1 minute, there are good solutions for that, all of which have nothing to do with the immigration system.
      - renewiltord 5y ago
        Seems like a nonsensical system. I could then say “considering how saturated the system is, I see a working system” about an immigration system that has exactly one immigration agent working exactly once every 3 decades. That system would also be “working”. Which makes what you’re saying rather comedic.
        29athrowaway 5y ago
        You use Hacker news. Hacker news rate limits requests and throttles some activity like commenting. Do they do it because they hate people? Because they have an evil political affiliation? No. They do it because of simple common sense and I agree with it. Same with the immigration system which is similar to the one from my country of origin. The guy in the article is definitely a the type of immigrant any country wants, sure. But he comes from a country where you have jerks like Infosys and Tata submitting 10 copies of the same application for every employee, DoSing the USCIS. And where there are fake universities with 24/7 phone numbers and websites and fake photos. And a world of cheating in every aspect imaginable. This has resulted in higher skepticism not only from the USCIS but from every governmental immigration agency on the planet.
      - valarauko 5y ago
        > I went through the same process as this man, so I am speaking from experience. Did you go through an EB2 application as an Indian/Chinese? If not, then it's not the same process. For every other national, you know your status in a couple of months, not decades. Children do not age out of the application as happens for Indians/Chinese.
        29athrowaway 5y ago
        No, I did not. But then, that aging you described happened while residing in the US where you were making money hand over fist same as a US national. And your US-born kids are citizens. So in the end the only difference is the inconvenience of the paperwork that you worked on very rarely. The rest of the time you were enjoying life in the US. So, this story of 18 years of suffering is really nonsense. The guy had a great time working at great companies and making millions of dollars in salary, bonuses and stock while being midly bothered by some paperwork that was mostly prepared by an attorney. The average small business owner is bothered by the government 1000x more and won't have the prosper life of a MAANG engineer.
  - Aloha 5y ago
    Even if all that were true, why is this process so complicated it makes no sense.
0xcafecafe 5y ago
But if that same restaurant started having different wait times for something as arbitrary as country of birth, we would have a problem.
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goodpoint 5y ago

...then the restaurant would simply book you a table in a FIFO manner. Once and for all. Be it tomorrow or in a month or in 12 years. Then you can decide to wait or cancel. Very simple.

shuckles 5y ago

Two great American universities chose to admit this man. This isn’t some story about thundering hoards — he was invited to the country.

29athrowaway 5y ago
And shortly after he entered the country, studied and then worked for many years. Did he have to wait outside for 18 years? No. Was he prevented for working? No. Considering how saturated the system is, I see a working system and a happy person that lived, studied and worked in the US for 18 years.
- shuckles 5y ago
  You keep claiming the system is “at capacity” with no evidence, and the psychological trauma it inflicts as inevitable. How does it strain the system differently to process an Indian applicant than an Australian one?
  - 29athrowaway 5y ago
    I went through the same process as this man, so I am speaking from experience. The actual impact to my life was negligible, as all of the actual work was done by immigration lawyers. The only thing I had to do was submitting some info to the attorneys, a biometrics appointment and a short interview. And paying fees, and presenting a vaccination record. And the system is at capacity because there are long waiting times, which is the definition of a saturated system. And this is public, published information. https://egov.uscis.gov/processing-times/ https://egov.uscis.gov/processing-times/ If the guy has anxiety and checks the case status every 1 minute, there are good solutions for that, all of which have nothing to do with the immigration system.
    - renewiltord 5y ago
      Seems like a nonsensical system. I could then say “considering how saturated the system is, I see a working system” about an immigration system that has exactly one immigration agent working exactly once every 3 decades. That system would also be “working”. Which makes what you’re saying rather comedic.
      - 29athrowaway 5y ago
        You use Hacker news. Hacker news rate limits requests and throttles some activity like commenting. Do they do it because they hate people? Because they have an evil political affiliation? No. They do it because of simple common sense and I agree with it. Same with the immigration system which is similar to the one from my country of origin. The guy in the article is definitely a the type of immigrant any country wants, sure. But he comes from a country where you have jerks like Infosys and Tata submitting 10 copies of the same application for every employee, DoSing the USCIS. And where there are fake universities with 24/7 phone numbers and websites and fake photos. And a world of cheating in every aspect imaginable. This has resulted in higher skepticism not only from the USCIS but from every governmental immigration agency on the planet.
    - valarauko 5y ago
      > I went through the same process as this man, so I am speaking from experience. Did you go through an EB2 application as an Indian/Chinese? If not, then it's not the same process. For every other national, you know your status in a couple of months, not decades. Children do not age out of the application as happens for Indians/Chinese.
      - 29athrowaway 5y ago
        No, I did not. But then, that aging you described happened while residing in the US where you were making money hand over fist same as a US national. And your US-born kids are citizens. So in the end the only difference is the inconvenience of the paperwork that you worked on very rarely. The rest of the time you were enjoying life in the US. So, this story of 18 years of suffering is really nonsense. The guy had a great time working at great companies and making millions of dollars in salary, bonuses and stock while being midly bothered by some paperwork that was mostly prepared by an attorney. The average small business owner is bothered by the government 1000x more and won't have the prosper life of a MAANG engineer.
- Aloha 5y ago
  Even if all that were true, why is this process so complicated it makes no sense.

0xcafecafe 5y ago

But if that same restaurant started having different wait times for something as arbitrary as country of birth, we would have a problem.

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