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It's sort of irrelevant if they're official. Look at all the pitchforks, then sort them by who's holding them. At this point in America's politics, it's time t

It's sort of irrelevant if they're official. Look at all the pitchforks, then sort them by who's holding them. At this point in America's politics, it's time to stop pretending that the attacks aren't official

subjectsigma 4y ago
The posted account, @libsoftiktok, is not officially endorsed by the Republican party. I don't really know what you mean.
- JohnHaugeland 4y ago
  It's weird that you responded to "being official isn't relevant" by talking more about officialness
  - subjectsigma 4y ago
    >It's sort of irrelevant if they're official >It's time to stop pretending they are not official I literally didn't understand your previous comment, because it makes no sense. If you could clarify that would be great, otherwise I'm not going to keep responding.
    - JohnHaugeland 4y ago
      It actually does make sense. It's also quite simple. Here, I'll repeat myself. 1) It doesn't matter if they're official 2) Please don't waste time pretending they aren't official, because that doesn't matter
      - subjectsigma 4y ago
        Ok, now that you've re-worded your comment entirely, I get what you were trying to say. I still don't get how anyone could say that. Understanding who said what is very important and official positions do matter. I would consider myself conservative, but I am not a registered Republican, so they don't represent me. There's lots of Qanon people inside the GOP, but there's also people not associated with Qanon in the GOP, because that's not their official position. Do you also think the NAACP speaks for every African American full stop? Or that every local Antifa chapter gets to decide what the movement means? EDIT: To summarize and get back on topic, @libsoftiktok is a sub movement within new conservatism. By the definition of sub-movement, they do not represent all conservative opinions. And they are not part of some "larger strategy" to attack liberals, or at least, there is no evidence that is true.
        JohnHaugeland 4y ago
        It's hard to respond to you when you ask if I hold grotesque views, while saying things like "what you were trying to say" If you're able to hold a more polite conversation, let me know I see that you continue to tub thump exactly the irrelevant thing. Maybe you think repetition makes it matter more?
        subjectsigma 4y ago
        I've given you way more politeness than you deserve, it seems like you're incapable of reading what you yourself wrote. Get bent.
yessirwhatever 4y ago
You say "It's sort of irrelevant if they're official" then you say "it's time to stop pretending that the attacks aren't official", which kind of comes of as you're saying: they are official, so it's not that they are irrelevant, it's just that you're not buying it. Or maybe you're just not explaining yourself clearly: Which is it? Is it relevant or is it not? If your first statement is what you meant (It's sort of irrelevant if they're official), what's your evidence? What/where are the pitchforks? Do you think people who are advocating one side or the other are not convinced with what they're advocating? If it's your second statement (it's time to stop pretending that the attacks aren't official), I ask again, what's your evidence? What is it about "this point" in America's politics that makes it clear as you're saying that attacks are always official?
- subjectsigma 4y ago
  I read through this guy JohnHaugeland's history for a page or two to try and figure out if it's a troll account or not. It's not a troll account, just your average HN poster. Absurdly arrogant, with a tendency to go from single-line, fairly innocuous comments to full-blown ranting essays attacking people. I'd forget about engaging him anymore. The sad part is that if we met in real life, I think we might agree on a few things.

subjectsigma 4y ago

The posted account, @libsoftiktok, is not officially endorsed by the Republican party. I don't really know what you mean.

JohnHaugeland 4y ago
It's weird that you responded to "being official isn't relevant" by talking more about officialness
- subjectsigma 4y ago
  >It's sort of irrelevant if they're official >It's time to stop pretending they are not official I literally didn't understand your previous comment, because it makes no sense. If you could clarify that would be great, otherwise I'm not going to keep responding.
  - JohnHaugeland 4y ago
    It actually does make sense. It's also quite simple. Here, I'll repeat myself. 1) It doesn't matter if they're official 2) Please don't waste time pretending they aren't official, because that doesn't matter
    - subjectsigma 4y ago
      Ok, now that you've re-worded your comment entirely, I get what you were trying to say. I still don't get how anyone could say that. Understanding who said what is very important and official positions do matter. I would consider myself conservative, but I am not a registered Republican, so they don't represent me. There's lots of Qanon people inside the GOP, but there's also people not associated with Qanon in the GOP, because that's not their official position. Do you also think the NAACP speaks for every African American full stop? Or that every local Antifa chapter gets to decide what the movement means? EDIT: To summarize and get back on topic, @libsoftiktok is a sub movement within new conservatism. By the definition of sub-movement, they do not represent all conservative opinions. And they are not part of some "larger strategy" to attack liberals, or at least, there is no evidence that is true.
      - JohnHaugeland 4y ago
        It's hard to respond to you when you ask if I hold grotesque views, while saying things like "what you were trying to say" If you're able to hold a more polite conversation, let me know I see that you continue to tub thump exactly the irrelevant thing. Maybe you think repetition makes it matter more?
        subjectsigma 4y ago
        I've given you way more politeness than you deserve, it seems like you're incapable of reading what you yourself wrote. Get bent.

yessirwhatever 4y ago

You say "It's sort of irrelevant if they're official" then you say "it's time to stop pretending that the attacks aren't official", which kind of comes of as you're saying: they are official, so it's not that they are irrelevant, it's just that you're not buying it. Or maybe you're just not explaining yourself clearly: Which is it? Is it relevant or is it not? If your first statement is what you meant (It's sort of irrelevant if they're official), what's your evidence? What/where are the pitchforks? Do you think people who are advocating one side or the other are not convinced with what they're advocating? If it's your second statement (it's time to stop pretending that the attacks aren't official), I ask again, what's your evidence? What is it about "this point" in America's politics that makes it clear as you're saying that attacks are always official?

subjectsigma 4y ago
I read through this guy JohnHaugeland's history for a page or two to try and figure out if it's a troll account or not. It's not a troll account, just your average HN poster. Absurdly arrogant, with a tendency to go from single-line, fairly innocuous comments to full-blown ranting essays attacking people. I'd forget about engaging him anymore. The sad part is that if we met in real life, I think we might agree on a few things.