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>> The Third Reich had cultural Bolshevism > The Reich didn't "have" it - Bolshevism was a real movement, and its adherents have wreaked massive havoc in Russi

by atchoo 4y ago

>> The Third Reich had cultural Bolshevism > The Reich didn't "have" it - Bolshevism was a real movement, and its adherents have wreaked massive havoc in Russia Sigh. "Cultural Bolshevism" is not Bolshevism. It's a rhetorical device invented by the Nazis to attack various people and things they didn't want in the Third Reich. It had nothing to do with actual Bolshevism but was things like art, music and authors that didn't reflect their values. See "Degenerate Art" etc.

smsm42 4y ago
Oh sure they did attack artists they didn't like. Unlike many other things, that one wasn't unique to the Nazis. So do people in the US. Both sides of the spectrum attack art that they don't like - in different ways. Just this month Dave Chapelle was physically attacked on stage because somebody didn't like his art. This is not the only case by far - people get "cancelled" for all kinds of artistical "crimes", and though physical attacks are thankfully still rare, threats and property destruction becomes more and more common. Below that, in the legitimate field, there lies a long-standing tradition of art critique - which yes, sometimes harshly criticizes certain art. This is what Peterson is doing too, though it is by far not the most important part of his work. Are all these people Nazis then? I don't think so. Not even the person that attacked Chapelle - he was a violent idiot, but likely not a Nazi. I think, instead, certain people - mostly on the Left - are abusing "Nazi" label to delegitimize their opponents and the criticism of any actions of their side, while keeping the right to criticize - and sometimes physically attack, destroy, burn and maim - from their side. Needless to say, it's not how political - or cultural - discussion should be properly held.

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>> The Third Reich had cultural Bolshevism > The Reich didn't "have" it - Bolshevism was a real movement, and its adherents have wreaked massive havoc in Russi

by atchoo 4y ago

smsm42 4y ago
Oh sure they did attack artists they didn't like. Unlike many other things, that one wasn't unique to the Nazis. So do people in the US. Both sides of the spectrum attack art that they don't like - in different ways. Just this month Dave Chapelle was physically attacked on stage because somebody didn't like his art. This is not the only case by far - people get "cancelled" for all kinds of artistical "crimes", and though physical attacks are thankfully still rare, threats and property destruction becomes more and more common. Below that, in the legitimate field, there lies a long-standing tradition of art critique - which yes, sometimes harshly criticizes certain art. This is what Peterson is doing too, though it is by far not the most important part of his work. Are all these people Nazis then? I don't think so. Not even the person that attacked Chapelle - he was a violent idiot, but likely not a Nazi. I think, instead, certain people - mostly on the Left - are abusing "Nazi" label to delegitimize their opponents and the criticism of any actions of their side, while keeping the right to criticize - and sometimes physically attack, destroy, burn and maim - from their side. Needless to say, it's not how political - or cultural - discussion should be properly held.