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Yeah, that's equivalent to "stand back, and stand by" /s
by ece 4y ago
Yeah, that's equivalent to "stand back, and stand by" /s
- gadders 4y ago
- ece 4y agoShe is talking about defending her rights in court.
- antiterra 4y agoWhere are you exactly where people say ‘call to arms’ as anything other than idiomatic call to action?
- gadders 4y agoWell I think to be fair-minded if "call to arms" is idiomatic, then you have to assume that "stand back, and stand by" is as well. You can't arbitrarily take one literally and one not. If they both idiomatic, then they are both equally harmless.
- notreallyserio 4y agoOne of those phrases is told to groups of people that regularly worships guns in public. The other is not. Context counts for a lot.
- gadders 4y agoOne of those communications is aimed at people that regularly riot. Context counts for a lot.
- phailhaus 4y agoWhich group is that? Can you name them? Who is their leader? Trump told the Proud Boys specifically to "stand back and stand by". They are an armed group. You are equating the Proud Boys with the amorphous "LGBTQ+ friends" community, and then saying that the latter "regularly riot". That's not tenable. I think you are deliberately engaging in bad-faith arguments. You are literally saying "gay people are the same as organized armed militias." In fact, you said it's "worse."
- gadders 4y ago
- FireBeyond 4y agoWeird. Members of The Proud Boys (in fact, people they publicly list as their leadership) have been arrested multiple times in my town for drawing weapons (paintbull guns, pepper spray, baseball bats, guns) at protests, firing shots at protests, shooting people at protests. Don't go on about Antifa as some armed organized group and act like the Proud Boys are "just a bunch of friends disappointed in the direction of society" or some shit. Like you say, "that's not even remotely close to being factual". The Proud Boys literally have an entire section on their website showing them violently attacking people: https://proudboyspnw.com/fafo/ https://proudboyspnw.com/fafo/ Sources: https://pamplinmedia.com/pt/520702-416146-portland-proud-boy-leader-tiny-toese-shot-by-opposing-group-at-wa-clash-city-says https://pamplinmedia.com/pt/520702-416146-portland-proud-boy... Some more: https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2022/01/proud-boy-tusitala-tiny-toese-faces-felony-charges-in-clash-near-abandoned-portland-kmart.html https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2022/01/proud-boy-tusitala-... https://proudboyspnw.com/chapters/ https://proudboyspnw.com/chapters/ - you're right, absolutely not organized, whatsoever.
- gadders 4y ago
- notreallyserio 4y ago[flagged]
- Karawebnetwork 4y agoName me one LGBTQ riot that is not The Stonewall riots of 1969.