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> [Zapp] is Java Like I said, not a good joke. Nothing about Zapp seems Java-like.

• scotty79 5y ago
  Like you said "he spends his men in human wave attacks" Java seemingly requires countless bodies thrown into the fight to achieve even the simplest of goals.
  • the_af 5y ago
    Really? I've worked most of my professional life with Java and that's never been the case. Teams were always fairly small, 3 to 5 people. The 20-people (!!!) team you mentioned in your anecdote sounds like it would have failed with any technology. A better characterization of Java is: reliable, battle-tested, bureaucratic, needlessly verbose, and used for many enterprisey (aka boring) projects. That doesn't match Zapp's personality: he's brash, self-promoting, ignorant, deluded about his own importance and accomplishments, and cruel to subordinates -- who do the actual work. So Salesforce is a far better match. Failing that, an Engineer Manager job would also suit Zapp. Hermes is a better match for Java, at least for bureaucracy and suitability for mind-boggingly boring tasks.
    • scotty79 5y ago
      Oh, but that team did not fail. They eventually succeeded through the great effort just like good Zapp's troops, they were. I think there's a very good reason that small startups rarely use Java but Enterprises with limitless resources to tackle simplest problems just love it. I wrote some small commercial stuff in Java and it was anything but small. But I'm not Java programmer and I never will be if I can help it. Let's agree to disagree.