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They aren’t the American Fairness Union. Stacey Abrams is a proponent of expanding civil liberties. Brett Kavanaugh has repeatedly demonstrated contempt for the

They aren’t the American Fairness Union. Stacey Abrams is a proponent of expanding civil liberties. Brett Kavanaugh has repeatedly demonstrated contempt for them, exemplified by the coming decision that overturns Roe.

Spivak 4y ago
Yeah, this thread it wild to me. Are we really gonna both sides this and pretend that candidates who openly and proudly oppose the liberties that the ACLU fights for are somehow equivalent? The ACLU can’t just sue for liberties that require legislation be passed, that is unless you’re in favor with more legislating from the bench. And in that case they have to support politicians that will further their mission.
raxxorraxor 4y ago
I probably don't agree with Brett Kavanaugh but I do certainly believe he was subjected to an extended and transparent political smear campaign. I don't think it is a good picture for an organisation for civil liberties to partake here and if they are connected to that it is a bit worse than a bad look.
- arrosenberg 4y ago
  So its a bad look for a special interest group to pursue that interest when a Republican operative is involved? I don’t understand how the two are related. Are you saying Brett Kavanaugh was wrongly construed, that he will support civil liberties? Seems like money well spent by the ACLU.
  - raxxorraxor 4y ago
    I don't see any possibility how the media campaign against him can be construed as a gain for civil liberties. Especially like you almost admit that it wasn't about his failures as a person and just politically motivated. This is independent from how well Brett Kavanaugh will later defend civil liberties or not.
    - arrosenberg 4y ago
      How is it independent? The reader can decide if he's morally qualified or not, but he had a long judicial record to rely upon for the ACLU to decide that he wasn't a friend of civil liberties.

Spivak 4y ago

Yeah, this thread it wild to me. Are we really gonna both sides this and pretend that candidates who openly and proudly oppose the liberties that the ACLU fights for are somehow equivalent? The ACLU can’t just sue for liberties that require legislation be passed, that is unless you’re in favor with more legislating from the bench. And in that case they have to support politicians that will further their mission.

raxxorraxor 4y ago

I probably don't agree with Brett Kavanaugh but I do certainly believe he was subjected to an extended and transparent political smear campaign. I don't think it is a good picture for an organisation for civil liberties to partake here and if they are connected to that it is a bit worse than a bad look.

arrosenberg 4y ago
So its a bad look for a special interest group to pursue that interest when a Republican operative is involved? I don’t understand how the two are related. Are you saying Brett Kavanaugh was wrongly construed, that he will support civil liberties? Seems like money well spent by the ACLU.
- raxxorraxor 4y ago
  I don't see any possibility how the media campaign against him can be construed as a gain for civil liberties. Especially like you almost admit that it wasn't about his failures as a person and just politically motivated. This is independent from how well Brett Kavanaugh will later defend civil liberties or not.
  - arrosenberg 4y ago
    How is it independent? The reader can decide if he's morally qualified or not, but he had a long judicial record to rely upon for the ACLU to decide that he wasn't a friend of civil liberties.