However, once you start writing ERB or HAML, or whatever, you're greatly reducing the involvement that designers can have in the process. If you're working on a

However, once you start writing ERB or HAML, or whatever, you're greatly reducing the involvement that designers can have in the process. If you're working on a traditional web site, that's potentially a bad thing. However, if you're making a richer web app, it might actually be a good thing to preclude non-programmers from interfering. This is why I'm digging slim (http://slim-lang.com http://slim-lang.com). It's pretty much html w/o the closing tags and brackets, and also like haml but cleaner looking.