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I am kinda sad that the Brazillian part in that story is how they forced them to stay because of Yellow Fever, but then they stole stuff from inside the plane..

I am kinda sad that the Brazillian part in that story is how they forced them to stay because of Yellow Fever, but then they stole stuff from inside the plane... The saddest part of this, is that I am not even surprised :( As Brazillian I deal all the time with online distrust with Brazillians, and often when people explain why they distrust us, I can't fault them, there are even online games where Brazillians have their own server separate from the rest of the planet just to "silo" Brazillians from other people, to prevent Brazillians from ruining their fun or causing damage.

soldeace 4y ago
As others said, the fact is that scumbags exist everywhere, and Brazil is certainly not exempted from this. Another fact is that Brazil is obscenely huge. The country is almost the size of Europe, and the number of online Brazilians nowadays is probably larger than some European countries' entire population. So, given that the ratio of scumbags is probably and roughly the same for every country in the world, the chance of anyone running into a scumbag Brazilian online is naturally larger than average, which tricks our biased brains into believing that "whoa, Brazil must be filled with scumbags". And of course, the notoriously pervasive "stray dog syndrome", a sentiment that every Brazilian thing is inferior than its imported counterpart (including manufactured goods, culture and whatnot), and which is hammered into the unconscious mind of 11 out of 10 Brazilians from a very young age (myself included), only helps strength this confirmation bias.
cupofpython 4y ago
A lot of people dismissing your concerns as "bad eggs everywhere". I appreciate you speaking out against this. Apologizing on behalf of others is a valid signal towards properly judging individual motives vs cultural influence. I do not want to be too quick to blame someone for acting distrustful if they grew up in a very distrustful environment / culture.
elnatro 4y ago
Well, don’t read too much into that. There are rude people everywhere. From what I know, Brazil produces high-quality software developers/computer scientists (elixir and Lua come from Brazil). Of course there are big social issues in Brazil but… aren’t there in all western countries? Poverty, unemployment, violence (maybe Brazil is an outlier in this case), etc.
- SemanticStrengh 4y ago
  > for example the excellent popcorn time
  - anaganisk 4y ago
    Popcorntime is the smartest there is for media consumption, but not exactly an example you want to cite here. Its a software that operates in an illegal area.
    - SemanticStrengh 4y ago
      Poporntime is not illegal strictly speaking, it's a software that allow to display movies as you download them via torrents. What is illegal is the source of the torrents not there mere interface provider (which also allow you to see legal)
      - anaganisk 4y ago
        Thats just silly, we all know what it is used for and why it is used for and why it was built. Popcorn time has an in built search by default that looks for pirated movies. I dont have to add any indexers. Popcorn time never had a any streaming deals, so all the movies in its screenshots from github are streamed via illegal torrents, which itself is illegal.
        SemanticStrengh 4y ago
        to be clear: Yes popcorntime is illegal because it includes by default links to illegal providers. however popcorntime could trivially become legal by removing those links and letting the user provide them instead.
        anaganisk 4y ago
        So its not exactly legal in its current state right, that’s my point.
walrus01 4y ago
to be honest your post sounds a lot like some Egyptians I know who seem compelled to apologize for the endemic tourist scams, bribery/shakedowns/corruption, unethical taxi drivers, sexual harassment etc in Cairo.
- RajT88 4y ago
  If I were Egyptian I would apologize for those folks. Is that bad?
  - deelly 4y ago
    Yes? You are not Egyptian. And one Egyptian should not be forced in any way to apologize for others Egyptians.
    - RajT88 4y ago
      I am an American and I feel the urge at times to apologize for other Americans. Especially when I am traveling abroad. We can be quite bad tourists.
sjtgraham 4y ago
> As Brazillian I deal all the time with online distrust with Brazillians, and often when people explain why they distrust us, I can't fault them, there are even online games where Brazillians have their own server separate from the rest of the planet just to "silo" Brazillians from other people, to prevent Brazillians from ruining their fun or causing damage. Nem todos pensam assim. Sou gringo, moro no rio e acho que o brasileiro é gente boa! TMJ
Thorrez 4y ago
Was that in the linked article? Or did you read that somewhere else?

soldeace 4y ago

As others said, the fact is that scumbags exist everywhere, and Brazil is certainly not exempted from this. Another fact is that Brazil is obscenely huge. The country is almost the size of Europe, and the number of online Brazilians nowadays is probably larger than some European countries' entire population. So, given that the ratio of scumbags is probably and roughly the same for every country in the world, the chance of anyone running into a scumbag Brazilian online is naturally larger than average, which tricks our biased brains into believing that "whoa, Brazil must be filled with scumbags". And of course, the notoriously pervasive "stray dog syndrome", a sentiment that every Brazilian thing is inferior than its imported counterpart (including manufactured goods, culture and whatnot), and which is hammered into the unconscious mind of 11 out of 10 Brazilians from a very young age (myself included), only helps strength this confirmation bias.

cupofpython 4y ago

A lot of people dismissing your concerns as "bad eggs everywhere". I appreciate you speaking out against this. Apologizing on behalf of others is a valid signal towards properly judging individual motives vs cultural influence. I do not want to be too quick to blame someone for acting distrustful if they grew up in a very distrustful environment / culture.

elnatro 4y ago

Well, don’t read too much into that. There are rude people everywhere. From what I know, Brazil produces high-quality software developers/computer scientists (elixir and Lua come from Brazil). Of course there are big social issues in Brazil but… aren’t there in all western countries? Poverty, unemployment, violence (maybe Brazil is an outlier in this case), etc.

SemanticStrengh 4y ago
> for example the excellent popcorn time
- anaganisk 4y ago
  Popcorntime is the smartest there is for media consumption, but not exactly an example you want to cite here. Its a software that operates in an illegal area.
  - SemanticStrengh 4y ago
    Poporntime is not illegal strictly speaking, it's a software that allow to display movies as you download them via torrents. What is illegal is the source of the torrents not there mere interface provider (which also allow you to see legal)
    - anaganisk 4y ago
      Thats just silly, we all know what it is used for and why it is used for and why it was built. Popcorn time has an in built search by default that looks for pirated movies. I dont have to add any indexers. Popcorn time never had a any streaming deals, so all the movies in its screenshots from github are streamed via illegal torrents, which itself is illegal.
      - SemanticStrengh 4y ago
        to be clear: Yes popcorntime is illegal because it includes by default links to illegal providers. however popcorntime could trivially become legal by removing those links and letting the user provide them instead.
        anaganisk 4y ago
        So its not exactly legal in its current state right, that’s my point.

walrus01 4y ago

to be honest your post sounds a lot like some Egyptians I know who seem compelled to apologize for the endemic tourist scams, bribery/shakedowns/corruption, unethical taxi drivers, sexual harassment etc in Cairo.

RajT88 4y ago
If I were Egyptian I would apologize for those folks. Is that bad?
- deelly 4y ago
  Yes? You are not Egyptian. And one Egyptian should not be forced in any way to apologize for others Egyptians.
  - RajT88 4y ago
    I am an American and I feel the urge at times to apologize for other Americans. Especially when I am traveling abroad. We can be quite bad tourists.

sjtgraham 4y ago

> As Brazillian I deal all the time with online distrust with Brazillians, and often when people explain why they distrust us, I can't fault them, there are even online games where Brazillians have their own server separate from the rest of the planet just to "silo" Brazillians from other people, to prevent Brazillians from ruining their fun or causing damage. Nem todos pensam assim. Sou gringo, moro no rio e acho que o brasileiro é gente boa! TMJ

Thorrez 4y ago

Was that in the linked article? Or did you read that somewhere else?