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Yeah, but you can't use the Watch as a standalone device (something that, as a WatchOS developer, I have always found stupid beyond reason...it should just have

Yeah, but you can't use the Watch as a standalone device (something that, as a WatchOS developer, I have always found stupid beyond reason...it should just have limited functionality on its own, including media playback) - if you could, not only would they sell millions upon millions more of them, but it could be a reasonable replacement for an iPod. Until then, if you want to use it as an 'iPod', it's just another expense on top of the iPhone you already have that's your 'iPod'. Apple cancelling the iPod line completely is frankly dumb. I know at least a dozen parents who use these for their kids. Also, what's with all the people suggesting parents just buy an iPhone with no sim? Y'all realize that the cheapest iPhone is twice as much as the $199 iPod Touch? :/

mulderc 4y ago
The watch isn't 100% standalone but I have no issues listening to music and podcasts away from my phone and I think people using it for listening to music while exercising away from the phone is a huge selling point for many people.
- nomel 4y ago
  > The watch isn't 100% standalone Just to highlight this point, an iPhone is required for activation. You can't activate with any other Apple device. You can use a family member's iPhone.
Adraghast 4y ago
What exactly are you asking for the Watch to do? I load mine with music to play while my phone is in a gym locker all the time. Do you just want to be able to get files onto it without needing an iPhone? There are "millions upon millions" of people clamoring for that feature?
- lostgame 4y ago
  To work without an iPhone. And yes, obviously that potentially creates millions more sales. :)
alphabettsy 4y ago
They’ve made it so that the Watch can be used as a child device assuming a parent uses an iPhone.
can16358p 4y ago
Watch + Bluetooth headphones go great together. Especially if you're on Wi-Fi and I believe on cellular (we still don't have it here in 3rd world) you can just go hiking with the watch and stream your music on Bluetooth without phone. Same for messaging, fitness tracking, and voice calls. I think it's enough for that device.

mulderc 4y ago

The watch isn't 100% standalone but I have no issues listening to music and podcasts away from my phone and I think people using it for listening to music while exercising away from the phone is a huge selling point for many people.

nomel 4y ago
> The watch isn't 100% standalone Just to highlight this point, an iPhone is required for activation. You can't activate with any other Apple device. You can use a family member's iPhone.

Adraghast 4y ago

What exactly are you asking for the Watch to do? I load mine with music to play while my phone is in a gym locker all the time. Do you just want to be able to get files onto it without needing an iPhone? There are "millions upon millions" of people clamoring for that feature?

lostgame 4y ago
To work without an iPhone. And yes, obviously that potentially creates millions more sales. :)

alphabettsy 4y ago

They’ve made it so that the Watch can be used as a child device assuming a parent uses an iPhone.

can16358p 4y ago

Watch + Bluetooth headphones go great together. Especially if you're on Wi-Fi and I believe on cellular (we still don't have it here in 3rd world) you can just go hiking with the watch and stream your music on Bluetooth without phone. Same for messaging, fitness tracking, and voice calls. I think it's enough for that device.