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What are some examples of this? (Aside from the posted article, which is debated in other comments.)

native_samples 4y ago
One might think the recently announced Disinformation Board would count.
jandrese 4y ago
Notable examples include kicking people who post white supremacist articles off of Twitter and Facebook. Or DirectTV dropping OAN from their lineup because their ratings have tanked after Trump left office. Or when Marjorie Taylor Green lost her committee assignments for merely stating her belief that white genocide is a major problem that Congress must take action against the Jewish space lasers immediately before they cause more wildfires that kill white people.
jollybean 4y ago
Banning people from Twitter, App Store, AWS, VISA being cancelled, kicked out of distribution etc... Private institutions are narrowing their versions of what was considered normative 'crude' behaviour into 'hate speech' which has implications. Netflix, Hulu etc. spend a lot of time defining what's appropriate and not in their programming, and someone uttering something 'counter narrative' is problematic for them (unless it makes them a lot of money). That said, with Trump lying about the election, and others lying about vaccines, and foreign actors 100% trying to influence electoral outcomes (these are real things), it's an actual problem. I mean, I don't care if RT.com is punted from anywhere, it's not relevant, but it's a slippery slope.
- rrradical 4y ago
  Those are examples of private companies not platforming certain speech. But how is that a modern change? Are you saying that decades ago, the big media companies at the time (say, NBC, CBS, ABC) platformed a greater variety of speech than now? I don't think you can earnestly claim that.
  - jollybean 4y ago
    You're making the wrong comparison. Did VISA, in the 1970s, kick people off of their network 'because speech'? Did ABC Shipping refuse customers, 'because speech'? That's not 'platforming' - those are just businesses that do business. Second - what happened in the past is irrelevant. Businesses should not really vetting customers unless there's a material reason. Certainly banks, telcos, retail - should be barred from this. VISA is not 'platforming' anyone, that's ridiculous. Twitter, Appstore - because they are directly related to the content, this is more arguably 'platforming' and there's more likely to be some kind of content management, but we have to be very careful about it.

One might think the recently announced Disinformation Board would count.

Notable examples include kicking people who post white supremacist articles off of Twitter and Facebook. Or DirectTV dropping OAN from their lineup because their ratings have tanked after Trump left office. Or when Marjorie Taylor Green lost her committee assignments for merely stating her belief that white genocide is a major problem that Congress must take action against the Jewish space lasers immediately before they cause more wildfires that kill white people.

jollybean 4y ago

Banning people from Twitter, App Store, AWS, VISA being cancelled, kicked out of distribution etc... Private institutions are narrowing their versions of what was considered normative 'crude' behaviour into 'hate speech' which has implications. Netflix, Hulu etc. spend a lot of time defining what's appropriate and not in their programming, and someone uttering something 'counter narrative' is problematic for them (unless it makes them a lot of money). That said, with Trump lying about the election, and others lying about vaccines, and foreign actors 100% trying to influence electoral outcomes (these are real things), it's an actual problem. I mean, I don't care if RT.com is punted from anywhere, it's not relevant, but it's a slippery slope.

rrradical 4y ago
Those are examples of private companies not platforming certain speech. But how is that a modern change? Are you saying that decades ago, the big media companies at the time (say, NBC, CBS, ABC) platformed a greater variety of speech than now? I don't think you can earnestly claim that.
- jollybean 4y ago
  You're making the wrong comparison. Did VISA, in the 1970s, kick people off of their network 'because speech'? Did ABC Shipping refuse customers, 'because speech'? That's not 'platforming' - those are just businesses that do business. Second - what happened in the past is irrelevant. Businesses should not really vetting customers unless there's a material reason. Certainly banks, telcos, retail - should be barred from this. VISA is not 'platforming' anyone, that's ridiculous. Twitter, Appstore - because they are directly related to the content, this is more arguably 'platforming' and there's more likely to be some kind of content management, but we have to be very careful about it.