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> -significantly raise the penalty for sexual child abuse I'm sure some dark comic (Boyle, Gervais?) made a joke along these lines, but presumably the proble

> -significantly raise the penalty for sexual child abuse I'm sure some dark comic (Boyle, Gervais?) made a joke along these lines, but presumably the problem with this tack is that you end up with more dead children? Biology, consensus-morality-abiding or otherwise, is a hard thing to ignore and little befearing the meagre laws of man in those that suffer from it. I'm not sure what the answer is, but I don't see 'sterner sentencing' having much truck here, as much as I'd personally mete the death sentence for anyone raping kids or.. well, anyone.

jimbob45 4y ago
It was Louis CK. Edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73Fy8zVp63w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73Fy8zVp63w
- detritus 4y ago
  Ah, 'Thank you'! Yes that's the skit I remembered, and by golly, as fucked up an idea as it is, he's entirely right. "I don't know what to do with that information. I don't have way to apply that to anything that's helpful", indeed.
  - Zhenya 4y ago
    He’s not right. Lowering penalties makes it more acceptable to society. I think we do agree that allowing child abuse is a net negative for society.
raxxorraxor 4y ago
I guess the usual child abuser doesn't think along the line that they do it for potential 10 years but not for 25 years in prison. While I believe that the schedule of kids is vastly overstuffed with senseless crap, more eyes on the target probably helps identifying cases of abuse. That means funding child care and schools. But that is more expensive and doesn't have positive side effects like a law for content control. UvdL is known to have had and probably still has many private gatherings to discuss policy in a privileged group. Maybe we should ask her what her secrecy was about and where the chat protocol is from these meetings. I suspect more criminal behavior than in the average internet chat.

jimbob45 4y ago

It was Louis CK. Edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73Fy8zVp63w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73Fy8zVp63w

detritus 4y ago
Ah, 'Thank you'! Yes that's the skit I remembered, and by golly, as fucked up an idea as it is, he's entirely right. "I don't know what to do with that information. I don't have way to apply that to anything that's helpful", indeed.
- Zhenya 4y ago
  He’s not right. Lowering penalties makes it more acceptable to society. I think we do agree that allowing child abuse is a net negative for society.

raxxorraxor 4y ago

I guess the usual child abuser doesn't think along the line that they do it for potential 10 years but not for 25 years in prison. While I believe that the schedule of kids is vastly overstuffed with senseless crap, more eyes on the target probably helps identifying cases of abuse. That means funding child care and schools. But that is more expensive and doesn't have positive side effects like a law for content control. UvdL is known to have had and probably still has many private gatherings to discuss policy in a privileged group. Maybe we should ask her what her secrecy was about and where the chat protocol is from these meetings. I suspect more criminal behavior than in the average internet chat.