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NextJS is an elaborate advertisement for Vercel's "serverless" cloud. I really can't feel sorry for anyone at this point that gets suckered into their sham. As

NextJS is an elaborate advertisement for Vercel's "serverless" cloud. I really can't feel sorry for anyone at this point that gets suckered into their sham. As a framework, it's also going to force you into a specific pattern. Skip Next and go straight for Express. NextJS does nothing useful that you can't easily do yourself, and only makes life difficult down the road. > they’re pushed by vendors yes, Apollo with GraphQL, Vercel, etc. It's a huge cottage industry. But this is how IT has always worked. Just look at some of the garbage Oracle and IBM have been pushing since the '80s. If your org is falling for a slick sales pitch or the latest Google cargo cult, then that's on them. If you're in IT, then it's your responsibility to educate the execs on what they actually need. If they would rather listen to the sales guy over at Oracle than you (often likely), then it's time to move on.

likortera 4y ago
I'm not a huge fan of Next and/or vercel. I'm in particular pissed off by the shady "call home metrics" thing they intentionally make it difficult to disable. But suggesting that you can use express instead of Next, to me, is a clear indication you have absolutely no idea what Next is.
leerob 4y ago
Hey, Lee from Vercel – I lead the Next.js community and am focused on making sure Next.js works great self-hosted (e.g. Node.js server, Docker app, etc) with support for all features. I've written docs[1] about it as well as made videos[2]. Open to any feedback you have on how we could make this more clear! [1]: https://nextjs.org/docs/deployment#self-hosting https://nextjs.org/docs/deployment#self-hosting [2]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pd2tVxhFnO4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pd2tVxhFnO4
phillipcarter 4y ago
Yes, corporate-funded OSS has a way to make things work well on their paid product. But Next.js is also just a well-built framework that won some hearts and minds because it's ...a good framework, not because of some extremely slick salespeople. And if being a technical contrarian is interesting, you can always use it with one of Vercel's biggest competitors: https://www.netlify.com/with/nextjs/ https://www.netlify.com/with/nextjs/

likortera 4y ago

I'm not a huge fan of Next and/or vercel. I'm in particular pissed off by the shady "call home metrics" thing they intentionally make it difficult to disable. But suggesting that you can use express instead of Next, to me, is a clear indication you have absolutely no idea what Next is.

leerob 4y ago

Hey, Lee from Vercel – I lead the Next.js community and am focused on making sure Next.js works great self-hosted (e.g. Node.js server, Docker app, etc) with support for all features. I've written docs[1] about it as well as made videos[2]. Open to any feedback you have on how we could make this more clear! [1]: https://nextjs.org/docs/deployment#self-hosting https://nextjs.org/docs/deployment#self-hosting [2]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pd2tVxhFnO4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pd2tVxhFnO4

phillipcarter 4y ago

Yes, corporate-funded OSS has a way to make things work well on their paid product. But Next.js is also just a well-built framework that won some hearts and minds because it's ...a good framework, not because of some extremely slick salespeople. And if being a technical contrarian is interesting, you can always use it with one of Vercel's biggest competitors: https://www.netlify.com/with/nextjs/ https://www.netlify.com/with/nextjs/