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> (worth noting this would be difficult to do in FIAT due to the amount) Difficult how? Wire transfers are a thing. Or are you just hoping that doing this with

by omni 4y ago

> (worth noting this would be difficult to do in FIAT due to the amount) Difficult how? Wire transfers are a thing. Or are you just hoping that doing this with a token lets you dodge taxes somehow?

almostkorean 4y ago
Jesus, is the comment about dodging taxes necessary? For the record I paid a fuckton of taxes for my crypto transactions, it would be idiotic not to. Do you know why? I'm not sure if my wire transfer experience is uniquely bad, but I had to do a wire transfer when I made a down payment on my house last year. To do this I had to drive to a physical bank location, sign some papers, and then they told me it will probably arrive within a couple hours. Google says the bank I use is 6th largest in the US so maybe bigger banks are better but I'm guessing my experience is not an outlier. edit: oh also forgot to mention wire transfer limits. I don't know the exact limit is for my bank but I'm guessing it's under the amount I transferred. I'm guessing this would mean multiple trips to a physical bank branch in the year 2022
- omni 4y ago
  Schwab lets me wire up to 100K a day using an online form, sounds like you need a better bank. I thought the whole point of wire transfers was to move around large sums of money, so it surprised me that you thought it's supposed to be difficult.
- omni 4y ago
  > I send stablecoins to family member (worth noting this would be difficult to do in FIAT due to the amount) and when he pays me back I can then withdraw my $TOKEN. While you're on your high horse about the taxes comment, you should know that in the US what you're describing here is illegal. You can't give someone an interest-free loan and have neither party pay taxes on it. Your options are roughly either to classify it as a gift or structure it like an actual loan, with a minimum acceptable rate published by the IRS each month. https://www.lindsayandbrownell.com/beware-of-the-interest-free-loan/ https://www.lindsayandbrownell.com/beware-of-the-interest-fr...
  - almostkorean 4y ago
    Sorry, taxes comment was out of place. Just frustrated. The loans aren't interest free, they have a variable rate determined by supply and demand. For USDC its been pretty steady around 3%. There was a day or two last year where it spiked to 40% when Justin Sun removed billions of his capital. In response to wire transfer, I was more complaining about having to be at a physical bank branch to do it. Not sure if that is unusual either. edit: Just remembered that normally I wouldn't have to physically go to the bank. I had to do so to make sure it arrived in time for the signing. I think they told me it would take a day or two if I did it online/over phone? But being there in person they said it would "probably" arrive in a couple hours
    - omni 4y ago
      I was referring to your loan to your family member, not the interest-bearing crypto loan.

by omni 4y ago

> (worth noting this would be difficult to do in FIAT due to the amount) Difficult how? Wire transfers are a thing. Or are you just hoping that doing this with a token lets you dodge taxes somehow?

almostkorean 4y ago

Jesus, is the comment about dodging taxes necessary? For the record I paid a fuckton of taxes for my crypto transactions, it would be idiotic not to. Do you know why? I'm not sure if my wire transfer experience is uniquely bad, but I had to do a wire transfer when I made a down payment on my house last year. To do this I had to drive to a physical bank location, sign some papers, and then they told me it will probably arrive within a couple hours. Google says the bank I use is 6th largest in the US so maybe bigger banks are better but I'm guessing my experience is not an outlier. edit: oh also forgot to mention wire transfer limits. I don't know the exact limit is for my bank but I'm guessing it's under the amount I transferred. I'm guessing this would mean multiple trips to a physical bank branch in the year 2022

omni 4y ago
Schwab lets me wire up to 100K a day using an online form, sounds like you need a better bank. I thought the whole point of wire transfers was to move around large sums of money, so it surprised me that you thought it's supposed to be difficult.
omni 4y ago
> I send stablecoins to family member (worth noting this would be difficult to do in FIAT due to the amount) and when he pays me back I can then withdraw my $TOKEN. While you're on your high horse about the taxes comment, you should know that in the US what you're describing here is illegal. You can't give someone an interest-free loan and have neither party pay taxes on it. Your options are roughly either to classify it as a gift or structure it like an actual loan, with a minimum acceptable rate published by the IRS each month. https://www.lindsayandbrownell.com/beware-of-the-interest-free-loan/ https://www.lindsayandbrownell.com/beware-of-the-interest-fr...
- almostkorean 4y ago
  Sorry, taxes comment was out of place. Just frustrated. The loans aren't interest free, they have a variable rate determined by supply and demand. For USDC its been pretty steady around 3%. There was a day or two last year where it spiked to 40% when Justin Sun removed billions of his capital. In response to wire transfer, I was more complaining about having to be at a physical bank branch to do it. Not sure if that is unusual either. edit: Just remembered that normally I wouldn't have to physically go to the bank. I had to do so to make sure it arrived in time for the signing. I think they told me it would take a day or two if I did it online/over phone? But being there in person they said it would "probably" arrive in a couple hours
  - omni 4y ago
    I was referring to your loan to your family member, not the interest-bearing crypto loan.