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Someone desperately trying to steer the debate into epistemological sophistry doesn’t mean I have to take the bait. I’ve explicitly declined to debate epistemo

Someone desperately trying to steer the debate into epistemological sophistry doesn’t mean I have to take the bait. I’ve explicitly declined to debate epistemology because it’s not necessary to show the internal inconsistency of sciencism, and it’s not a productive topic of discussion with religious ideologists. Now, please either present an argument or find someone else to harass. You’ve repeatedly left empty, sniping comments like this one, without ever actually making an argument. I get it, you disagree with me and find my position emotionally upsetting. That’s not a position, or an argument, it’s a feeling, and I’m not here to help you moderate your feelings.

SantalBlush 4y ago
You can explicitly decline all you want, but that doesn't change the epistemological substance of the discussion.
- teakettle42 4y ago
  As I said, I’m sorry this upsetting to you, but I’m not here to be a sounding board for your empty frustrations. You’re welcome to have the epistemological dialogue without me. It’s not relevant to pointing out the flaws of sciencism, and I — again — have zero interest in debating the epistemological validity of your faith-based belief system.
  - SantalBlush 4y ago
    I did not say you were debating the epistemological validity of a faith-based belief system, I said the discussion you've been having is epistemological in nature. These are different things, and the fact that you're misunderstanding this illustrates why you fail to grasp what others here have been trying to explain. You are making rudimentary mistakes in your thinking.
    - teakettle42 4y ago
      You still haven’t actually made a single argument, just sniped with useless ad hominem. Do you actually have anything to say? Again, I understand why religious thinkers want to drag the conversation into epistemology; it’s a complex rats nest in which their sophistry thrives. However, we don’t need to touch epistemology to discredit sciencism as internally inconsistent, and so I haven’t, and have no interest in arguing the value of anyone’s faith-based epistemological ideals. Religious ideology is religious ideology regardless of whether it claims orthodoxy over science, god, or neither.
      - VikingCoder 4y ago
        You have a religious belief in the scientific method, and do not understand the role that human scientists have in producing good results. Cheers.
      - SantalBlush 4y ago
        I'm not trying to make any broader statement about the philosophy of science; I'm simply pointing out a few of the ways in which you're wrong. You're free to respond or ignore me as you wish. And I haven't told you my positions about science or scientists. You just made wild inferences about what I believe.

SantalBlush 4y ago

You can explicitly decline all you want, but that doesn't change the epistemological substance of the discussion.

teakettle42 4y ago
As I said, I’m sorry this upsetting to you, but I’m not here to be a sounding board for your empty frustrations. You’re welcome to have the epistemological dialogue without me. It’s not relevant to pointing out the flaws of sciencism, and I — again — have zero interest in debating the epistemological validity of your faith-based belief system.
- SantalBlush 4y ago
  I did not say you were debating the epistemological validity of a faith-based belief system, I said the discussion you've been having is epistemological in nature. These are different things, and the fact that you're misunderstanding this illustrates why you fail to grasp what others here have been trying to explain. You are making rudimentary mistakes in your thinking.
  - teakettle42 4y ago
    You still haven’t actually made a single argument, just sniped with useless ad hominem. Do you actually have anything to say? Again, I understand why religious thinkers want to drag the conversation into epistemology; it’s a complex rats nest in which their sophistry thrives. However, we don’t need to touch epistemology to discredit sciencism as internally inconsistent, and so I haven’t, and have no interest in arguing the value of anyone’s faith-based epistemological ideals. Religious ideology is religious ideology regardless of whether it claims orthodoxy over science, god, or neither.
    - VikingCoder 4y ago
      You have a religious belief in the scientific method, and do not understand the role that human scientists have in producing good results. Cheers.
    - SantalBlush 4y ago
      I'm not trying to make any broader statement about the philosophy of science; I'm simply pointing out a few of the ways in which you're wrong. You're free to respond or ignore me as you wish. And I haven't told you my positions about science or scientists. You just made wild inferences about what I believe.