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>These reversions, due to in effect religious fundamentalism and pandering to what I only hope are minority crowds emboldened by gerrymandering and the electora
by ShockTohp 4y ago
>These reversions, due to in effect religious fundamentalism and pandering to what I only hope are minority crowds emboldened by gerrymandering and the electoral college, are concerning. The U.S. will continue to stagnate if all we ever discuss and rabble about are fringe issues. Why is abortion literally a major topic in every presidential election over decades? Abortion is a tough issue no matter what, and so a compromised is needed. There will never be a totally clean solution. Why are people so damn concerned with decisions others make? In Texas, last time I looked, anybody can initiate a lawsuit against a doctor on abortion related issues, making doctors frozen due to legal worries and even reverting to communicating on paper notes that they then throw away. It's insane. We're taking decision making from the educated and giving it to the uneducated.
RvW was a compromise that made both sides feel shafted, like most good compromises. The rise in extremism on both sides is fueling this, not religious fundamentalism. For states like Texas, where most people still hold to vaguely Christian values and new life is valued over choice, they feel like they are forced to allow murder. For other places like California who have a more secular egalitarian leaning, and value choice over life, they feel as though being limited to before viability is too much restriction.
RvW was always on shaky ground legally and morally speaking [1]. Making it a federal issue was always going to lead to this. States are different, some so different they might as well be separate countries. California, for example has already toyed with the idea of making abortion part of their state constitution. With Roe gone, it's much easier to do that, not harder.
Acting like this was done out of a lack of education is reductive and pointless. The justices know what they are doing and what it means. Just because you happen to be against this particular decision does not make it wrong. Abortion rights are not going away, they are being given back to the states where they belonged in the first place. Activists on both sides will just have to deal with the fact that they can no longer dictate how the entire country lives, just because their local bubble agrees with them.
[1]https://www.liveaction.org/news/roe-v-wade-exploitation-mccorvey/ https://www.liveaction.org/news/roe-v-wade-exploitation-mcco...
[2]https://apnews.com/article/california-reproductive-rights-state-governments-fcfe3d2b24fe6fe502d01d72a891f1c6 https://apnews.com/article/california-reproductive-rights-st...
- pjc50 4y ago> Abortion rights are not going away Abortion rights are going away in some states. > In Texas, last time I looked, anybody can initiate a lawsuit against a doctor on abortion related issues, making doctors frozen due to legal worries and even reverting to communicating on paper notes that they then throw away. It's insane. We're taking decision making from the educated and giving it to the uneducated. .. as you've pointed out yourself. > The rise in extremism on both sides is fueling this, There is no pro-abortion "extremism". There never has been anything comparable to the anti-abortion bombings. > For states like Texas, where most people still hold to vaguely Christian values and new life is valued over choice, they feel like they are forced to allow murder. Texas has the death penalty to show how much they value life.
- ShockTohp 4y ago>here is no pro-abortion "extremism". There never has been anything comparable to the anti-abortion bombings. You're simply wrong about this. https://www.kentuckytoday.com/baptist_life/pregnancy-care-centers-on-alert-following-attacks-vandalism/article_b058e8ea-cfc4-11ec-9790-9326c26f9edb.html https://www.kentuckytoday.com/baptist_life/pregnancy-care-ce... >Abortion rights are going away in some states. And getting stronger in others. Which is my point.