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Is this serious or a bad attempt at sarcasm?

mrtksn 4y ago
I don't know why you think I'm not serious because trolls spam and political manipulation is a thing on the internet these days, Google it! Care to answer and further explain your arguments?
- alaricus 4y ago
  It's really serious? Wow! Not even Microsoft TPMs write such nonsense. Forcing people to have a single ID across the web is a terrible idea. Having multiple disjoint accounts makes it much more difficult to track your activity online. It's not worth killing privacy just to stop a couple of annoying spammers. Of course Google/Facebook/Microsoft love the idea because it makes tracking user behaviour much more easier.
  - mrtksn 4y ago
    - alaricus 4y ago
      - mrtksn 4y ago
        See, this behavior is absurd in real life and I should have been able to avoid speaking with you so I don't waste my time. The anonymity gives you a shield against it and I don't think this is something healthy. Why I'm being called a troll for pushing an argument? Because of people like you, we can't have healthy arguments anymore because calling someone names without repercussions has become the norm even beyond kindergarten.
        alaricus 4y ago
        if we had a single sign in system, you would have been banned from the internet already :)
        feanaro 4y ago
        > Maybe you should study these things and come back later when you know what are you talking about? You were extremely condescending and rude in your argument. That's why you were called a troll.
    - feanaro 4y ago
      How does Facebook have this magical power for which you provide no explanation? Of course, there is no such magical power. The trick works if you allow it, that is unless you block it with technical means. After all, you are still in control of your computer, so if you block the information they use to track you, they won't be able to track you. Thus, it is not sufficient reason to force the implementation of a dystopian surveillance machine.
      - mrtksn 4y ago
        No, no magical tricks. They do device and browser fingerprinting, essentially they can detect you across the internet and in real life through your device networks, device identifiers like MAC address, device specs and configuration.
        feanaro 4y ago
        All of these information sources can be sanitized so that the entropy they give off is reduced. See efforts by the Tor Browser and Firefox on reducing the effect of fingerprinting. Additionally, your MAC address is not exposed over the internet, just to the next hop. I'll repeat what I said: > Thus, it is not sufficient reason to force the implementation of a dystopian surveillance machine.
- wvh 4y ago
  Because people tell you their name if they want to, and give you their thoughts if they choose to do so. Having your name available to all at any time and anything you've ever said regardless of context or without limits to the intended audience is madness. It's a freedom we should not be willing to give up so easily because of technology. On top of that, having all that personal information available will actually increase the power of trolls and political manipulation, not to mention exacerbate identity theft, profiling, security and phishing problems.
  - mrtksn 4y ago
    You don't have to give your name to anyone. Single sign in implies a single person but doesn't need to have any more information on that person and even if it has the info doesn't have to share it with anyone.

I don't know why you think I'm not serious because trolls spam and political manipulation is a thing on the internet these days, Google it! Care to answer and further explain your arguments?

alaricus 4y ago
It's really serious? Wow! Not even Microsoft TPMs write such nonsense. Forcing people to have a single ID across the web is a terrible idea. Having multiple disjoint accounts makes it much more difficult to track your activity online. It's not worth killing privacy just to stop a couple of annoying spammers. Of course Google/Facebook/Microsoft love the idea because it makes tracking user behaviour much more easier.
- mrtksn 4y ago
  - alaricus 4y ago
    - mrtksn 4y ago
      See, this behavior is absurd in real life and I should have been able to avoid speaking with you so I don't waste my time. The anonymity gives you a shield against it and I don't think this is something healthy. Why I'm being called a troll for pushing an argument? Because of people like you, we can't have healthy arguments anymore because calling someone names without repercussions has become the norm even beyond kindergarten.
      - alaricus 4y ago
        if we had a single sign in system, you would have been banned from the internet already :)
      - feanaro 4y ago
        > Maybe you should study these things and come back later when you know what are you talking about? You were extremely condescending and rude in your argument. That's why you were called a troll.
  - feanaro 4y ago
    How does Facebook have this magical power for which you provide no explanation? Of course, there is no such magical power. The trick works if you allow it, that is unless you block it with technical means. After all, you are still in control of your computer, so if you block the information they use to track you, they won't be able to track you. Thus, it is not sufficient reason to force the implementation of a dystopian surveillance machine.
    - mrtksn 4y ago
      No, no magical tricks. They do device and browser fingerprinting, essentially they can detect you across the internet and in real life through your device networks, device identifiers like MAC address, device specs and configuration.
      - feanaro 4y ago
        All of these information sources can be sanitized so that the entropy they give off is reduced. See efforts by the Tor Browser and Firefox on reducing the effect of fingerprinting. Additionally, your MAC address is not exposed over the internet, just to the next hop. I'll repeat what I said: > Thus, it is not sufficient reason to force the implementation of a dystopian surveillance machine.
wvh 4y ago
Because people tell you their name if they want to, and give you their thoughts if they choose to do so. Having your name available to all at any time and anything you've ever said regardless of context or without limits to the intended audience is madness. It's a freedom we should not be willing to give up so easily because of technology. On top of that, having all that personal information available will actually increase the power of trolls and political manipulation, not to mention exacerbate identity theft, profiling, security and phishing problems.
- mrtksn 4y ago
  You don't have to give your name to anyone. Single sign in implies a single person but doesn't need to have any more information on that person and even if it has the info doesn't have to share it with anyone.