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RoundUp-ready crops allows for farmers to spray herbicide directly onto food. That means we are now eating the chemical in much higher than trace amounts. This

RoundUp-ready crops allows for farmers to spray herbicide directly onto food. That means we are now eating the chemical in much higher than trace amounts. This is new, untested and seemingly bad (if you go by the non-Monsanto-funded studies).

gcheong 4y ago
My comment was in regards to Bt crops but regardless I think your perception of how much glyphosate actually gets used is rather blown out of proportion - most likely due to all the anti-gmo propaganda that’s out there. It’s certainly not “new” as roundup ready crops have been around for quite some time at this point and we likely would have seen obvious health problems directly attributable to it by now if there are any. Here’s just one counterpoint from someone who actually farms for a living: https://thelifeofafarmer.com/2016/05/22/how-much-roundup-do-farmers-actually-use/amp/ https://thelifeofafarmer.com/2016/05/22/how-much-roundup-do-...
- mike00632 4y ago
  > ...glyphosate... RoundUp. We are talking about RoundUp being sprayed onto foods. Not glyphosate. That is a tactic to avoid talking about the tests involving RoundUp.
  - gcheong 4y ago
    The whole “Roundup not glyphosate” reframing was just a convenient shifting of the goalposts after their initial claims about glyphosate were debunked. But I still contend that your assertion that we are eating non-trace amounts of Roundup or glyphosate or whatever your demon dou jour is is quite false.
    - mike00632 4y ago
      >The whole “Roundup not glyphosate” reframing was just a convenient shifting of the goalposts... Yes, you and Monsanto are shifting the goalposts. RoundUp is sprayed onto foods. Studies show that RoundUp is toxic. Monsanto funded a bunch of studies on glysophate in isolation to try and show that RoundUp is not toxic. RoundUp has chemicals that make it possible for Glysophate to permeate the cells.
- mike00632 4y ago
  >...and we likely would have seen obvious health problems directly attributable to it by now... By the way, we did see health problems. Farmers and farmhands successfully sued Monsanto for health problems caused by RoundUp.
  - gcheong 4y ago
    If you understand how these court cases are brought you would see that it’s problematic at best to rely on them as a determination of truth: https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/the-science-behind-the-roundup-lawsuit/ https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/the-science-behind-the-roun...

gcheong 4y ago

My comment was in regards to Bt crops but regardless I think your perception of how much glyphosate actually gets used is rather blown out of proportion - most likely due to all the anti-gmo propaganda that’s out there. It’s certainly not “new” as roundup ready crops have been around for quite some time at this point and we likely would have seen obvious health problems directly attributable to it by now if there are any. Here’s just one counterpoint from someone who actually farms for a living: https://thelifeofafarmer.com/2016/05/22/how-much-roundup-do-farmers-actually-use/amp/ https://thelifeofafarmer.com/2016/05/22/how-much-roundup-do-...

mike00632 4y ago
> ...glyphosate... RoundUp. We are talking about RoundUp being sprayed onto foods. Not glyphosate. That is a tactic to avoid talking about the tests involving RoundUp.
- gcheong 4y ago
  The whole “Roundup not glyphosate” reframing was just a convenient shifting of the goalposts after their initial claims about glyphosate were debunked. But I still contend that your assertion that we are eating non-trace amounts of Roundup or glyphosate or whatever your demon dou jour is is quite false.
  - mike00632 4y ago
    >The whole “Roundup not glyphosate” reframing was just a convenient shifting of the goalposts... Yes, you and Monsanto are shifting the goalposts. RoundUp is sprayed onto foods. Studies show that RoundUp is toxic. Monsanto funded a bunch of studies on glysophate in isolation to try and show that RoundUp is not toxic. RoundUp has chemicals that make it possible for Glysophate to permeate the cells.
mike00632 4y ago
>...and we likely would have seen obvious health problems directly attributable to it by now... By the way, we did see health problems. Farmers and farmhands successfully sued Monsanto for health problems caused by RoundUp.
- gcheong 4y ago
  If you understand how these court cases are brought you would see that it’s problematic at best to rely on them as a determination of truth: https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/the-science-behind-the-roundup-lawsuit/ https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/the-science-behind-the-roun...