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What nonsense! Are you worried that rich people will buy all the food, or use all the gasoline?

uoaei 4y ago
It seems you have misunderstood. This point is not about supply of water, it is about supply of dollars in a given wallet. Doesn't matter how much water is in supply: if someone cannot meet the price, they won't have access. Any time there is a minimum price on something, people who cannot afford that price won't receive that thing. When that thing is water, they will die. Seems pretty straightforward to me.
- baggy_trough 4y ago
  We charge for water now. I'm not aware of any poor Californians dying of thirst due to cost. So I believe your hypothesis is wrong.
  - Lammy 4y ago
    > I'm not aware of any poor Californians dying of thirst due to cost. Lockary v. Kayfetz is a good place you can start: https://lawcat.berkeley.edu/record/1121751/files/fulltext.pdf https://lawcat.berkeley.edu/record/1121751/files/fulltext.pd... "With new construction halted and Bolinas's desirability unabated—or enhanced—after the moratorium, housing became pricier. In 1979, to create more affordable housing, the District allowed property owners to build second units on their property. Today [2007], property owners waiting for a chance to develop outnumber property owners with [water] meters, and homes can easily fetch $1 million."
    - baggy_trough 4y ago
      People in Bolinas are dying of thirst?
      - Lammy 4y ago
        You will find it difficult to quantify a dollar-value of the damage done to people who would like to live in a particular place but have been locked out due to artificial constraints on housing supply. That's why it's such an effective strategy.
        baggy_trough 4y ago
        You appear to be responding to some comment other than my own.
  - uoaei 4y ago
    What hubris to expect that your tiny filter bubble can accurately reflect large-scale tendencies!
    - baggy_trough 4y ago
      If you know of anyone in California who has died of thirst because of water cost, please cite it.
      - uoaei 4y ago
        If you don't know of anyone in California who has died of thirst because of water cost, please don't assume that absence of evidence is evidence of absence.
        baggy_trough 4y ago
        Is there any credible source to that effect? If not, I submit that your statement is ridiculous hyperbole.

It seems you have misunderstood. This point is not about supply of water, it is about supply of dollars in a given wallet. Doesn't matter how much water is in supply: if someone cannot meet the price, they won't have access. Any time there is a minimum price on something, people who cannot afford that price won't receive that thing. When that thing is water, they will die. Seems pretty straightforward to me.

baggy_trough 4y ago
We charge for water now. I'm not aware of any poor Californians dying of thirst due to cost. So I believe your hypothesis is wrong.
- Lammy 4y ago
  > I'm not aware of any poor Californians dying of thirst due to cost. Lockary v. Kayfetz is a good place you can start: https://lawcat.berkeley.edu/record/1121751/files/fulltext.pdf https://lawcat.berkeley.edu/record/1121751/files/fulltext.pd... "With new construction halted and Bolinas's desirability unabated—or enhanced—after the moratorium, housing became pricier. In 1979, to create more affordable housing, the District allowed property owners to build second units on their property. Today [2007], property owners waiting for a chance to develop outnumber property owners with [water] meters, and homes can easily fetch $1 million."
  - baggy_trough 4y ago
    People in Bolinas are dying of thirst?
    - Lammy 4y ago
      You will find it difficult to quantify a dollar-value of the damage done to people who would like to live in a particular place but have been locked out due to artificial constraints on housing supply. That's why it's such an effective strategy.
      - baggy_trough 4y ago
        You appear to be responding to some comment other than my own.
- uoaei 4y ago
  What hubris to expect that your tiny filter bubble can accurately reflect large-scale tendencies!
  - baggy_trough 4y ago
    If you know of anyone in California who has died of thirst because of water cost, please cite it.
    - uoaei 4y ago
      If you don't know of anyone in California who has died of thirst because of water cost, please don't assume that absence of evidence is evidence of absence.
      - baggy_trough 4y ago
        Is there any credible source to that effect? If not, I submit that your statement is ridiculous hyperbole.