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Dare I say no one has done more for the blog form than Mr. Kottke. His humble, almost monkish 24-year commitment to not only the pursuit of knowledge and meanin

Dare I say no one has done more for the blog form than Mr. Kottke. His humble, almost monkish 24-year commitment to not only the pursuit of knowledge and meaning in the world, but his absolute insistence on sharing that pursuit with anyone who wants to ride along in that journey is one of the all-time greatest contributions to the web. Godspeed, Jason. Be well and see you on the flip (in whatever way you deem fit).

naikrovek 4y ago
- mkr-hn 4y ago
  I wish therapy were more accessible and better regulated. You shouldn't have to still be so upset about a normal early adopter experience 27 years later that you unload on strangers like this.
  - naikrovek 4y ago
    in no way should this be normal.
    - iratewizard 4y ago
      The high school popularity contest continues forever, sadly. You learn to play it or play something else with a few close friends.
    - mkr-hn 4y ago
      Part of navigating the world without reacting like...this, is learning to handle all the shoulds that aren't without losing yourself.
  - wolverine876 4y ago
    What is the problem with the comment? (Perhaps it was edited between our responses?)
    - mkr-hn 4y ago
      Describing someone else's success as messed up while riding the line between venting and emotional dumping. Blogging was seen as a weird nerd thing until the 2000s and got the usual response. I doubt Jason Kottke was spared the same experience. I sure wasn't! But I went a healthier path and took the chain of failures and small wins as learning experiences that have served me well in the years since. Some people get bitter about failure, and then dump it in places where no one asked without any of the grace and introspection that might turn it from obnoxious to something others can learn from. That's the problem.
      - wolverine876 4y ago
        That comment is hardly in the top 33% of emotional outbursts I've seen on HN. Are people just defensive about their favorite blogger? That comment was nothing personal about Kottke unless you squint and read it literally.
        naikrovek 4y ago
        it isn't about kottke. it's about people pressing their will on me simply because they didn't like what I was doing, with a vague follow-through that humanity is doomed because this is just how we are to each other. it's how humans treat each other that I was saying is "messed up", because it is messed up. we are doomed. the number of people that can follow the written word is astonishingly small, these days. I'm not a professional author, I don't have that skill, but I was not hiding my meaning in any way. many readers just ascribe a personality to an author of a comment depending on their own mood at the time, then color their view of the entire passage as if that was the mood intended by the author, and they don't even realize they've done it. these people vote, too. doomed, I say.
        mkr-hn 4y ago
        I don't know what to tell you if you can't see how messed up this is in general, but especially as a completely off-topic response. Who asked? This has nothing to do with the announcement, it has no relevancy to the discussion. It has nothing to do with the topic or the comment you replied to upthread. This is you venting and soapboxing. Let's go back and remember what that comment was: >> "Dare I say no one has done more for the blog form than Mr. Kottke. His humble, almost monkish 24-year commitment to not only the pursuit of knowledge and meaning in the world, but his absolute insistence on sharing that pursuit with anyone who wants to ride along in that journey is one of the all-time greatest contributions to the web." >> "Godspeed, Jason. Be well and see you on the flip (in whatever way you deem fit)." What does your wordvomit about your trauma re: blogging and the human condition have to do with asellke's kind words? You made everything about you. >> "it isn't about kottke." Correct. So why did you post it? Don't answer that. Move on.
  - barry-cotter 4y ago
    > I wish therapy were more accessible and better regulated. Those are incompatible wishes. More regulation automatically leads to higher costs. Enforcing the “right” training and hence ideology also doesn’t help when the only thing that has an effect on therapeutic effectiveness is the extent to which a therapist and client vibe with each other. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Therapeutic_relationship# https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Therapeutic_relationship#
  - LigmaYC 4y ago
    Therapy doesn't have a monopoly on being able to control your emotions.
- shortformblog 4y ago
  This has been downvoted, but as someone who has been blogging for 13 and a half years now, I’m sorry you had to deal with that. You did not deserve that discouragement. I faced discouragement early on when I wanted to get into blogging—in my first attempt, I faced a guy who was effectively trying to cyberbully me—but I eventually found my way in. I’ve been at it ever since. I encourage you to give it another shot, if you haven’t.
- wolverine876 4y ago
  > an absolutely endless parade of people said that it's stupid and that I should stop. I was never popular, I don't know if I was any good, but I caved, and stopped. That is my experience (in different fields), and it's the experience of many. It was before I understood how innovation and creativity work ('first they laugh at you ...') and also before I learned to know and love myself. Now I face the same responses for some aspects of my life, but there is no doubt anymore about what I should be doing. But doubt or not, it can be lonely and stressful at times. There is a cost and it's not always worth paying. You have to know yourself to know the value of whatever you are doing, the cost to you, and whether that's worthwhile.
madrox 4y ago
I can’t believe it’s been 24 years. I remember exploring 0sil8 way back when and being inspired by the cool things you could do with html. How time flies.
asellke 4y ago
Gotta say, things just aren't the same without a little kottke.org to start my day (sniff).

naikrovek 4y ago

mkr-hn 4y ago
I wish therapy were more accessible and better regulated. You shouldn't have to still be so upset about a normal early adopter experience 27 years later that you unload on strangers like this.
- naikrovek 4y ago
  in no way should this be normal.
  - iratewizard 4y ago
    The high school popularity contest continues forever, sadly. You learn to play it or play something else with a few close friends.
  - mkr-hn 4y ago
    Part of navigating the world without reacting like...this, is learning to handle all the shoulds that aren't without losing yourself.
- wolverine876 4y ago
  What is the problem with the comment? (Perhaps it was edited between our responses?)
  - mkr-hn 4y ago
    Describing someone else's success as messed up while riding the line between venting and emotional dumping. Blogging was seen as a weird nerd thing until the 2000s and got the usual response. I doubt Jason Kottke was spared the same experience. I sure wasn't! But I went a healthier path and took the chain of failures and small wins as learning experiences that have served me well in the years since. Some people get bitter about failure, and then dump it in places where no one asked without any of the grace and introspection that might turn it from obnoxious to something others can learn from. That's the problem.
    - wolverine876 4y ago
      That comment is hardly in the top 33% of emotional outbursts I've seen on HN. Are people just defensive about their favorite blogger? That comment was nothing personal about Kottke unless you squint and read it literally.
      - naikrovek 4y ago
        it isn't about kottke. it's about people pressing their will on me simply because they didn't like what I was doing, with a vague follow-through that humanity is doomed because this is just how we are to each other. it's how humans treat each other that I was saying is "messed up", because it is messed up. we are doomed. the number of people that can follow the written word is astonishingly small, these days. I'm not a professional author, I don't have that skill, but I was not hiding my meaning in any way. many readers just ascribe a personality to an author of a comment depending on their own mood at the time, then color their view of the entire passage as if that was the mood intended by the author, and they don't even realize they've done it. these people vote, too. doomed, I say.
        mkr-hn 4y ago
        I don't know what to tell you if you can't see how messed up this is in general, but especially as a completely off-topic response. Who asked? This has nothing to do with the announcement, it has no relevancy to the discussion. It has nothing to do with the topic or the comment you replied to upthread. This is you venting and soapboxing. Let's go back and remember what that comment was: >> "Dare I say no one has done more for the blog form than Mr. Kottke. His humble, almost monkish 24-year commitment to not only the pursuit of knowledge and meaning in the world, but his absolute insistence on sharing that pursuit with anyone who wants to ride along in that journey is one of the all-time greatest contributions to the web." >> "Godspeed, Jason. Be well and see you on the flip (in whatever way you deem fit)." What does your wordvomit about your trauma re: blogging and the human condition have to do with asellke's kind words? You made everything about you. >> "it isn't about kottke." Correct. So why did you post it? Don't answer that. Move on.
- barry-cotter 4y ago
  > I wish therapy were more accessible and better regulated. Those are incompatible wishes. More regulation automatically leads to higher costs. Enforcing the “right” training and hence ideology also doesn’t help when the only thing that has an effect on therapeutic effectiveness is the extent to which a therapist and client vibe with each other. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Therapeutic_relationship# https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Therapeutic_relationship#
- LigmaYC 4y ago
  Therapy doesn't have a monopoly on being able to control your emotions.
shortformblog 4y ago
This has been downvoted, but as someone who has been blogging for 13 and a half years now, I’m sorry you had to deal with that. You did not deserve that discouragement. I faced discouragement early on when I wanted to get into blogging—in my first attempt, I faced a guy who was effectively trying to cyberbully me—but I eventually found my way in. I’ve been at it ever since. I encourage you to give it another shot, if you haven’t.
wolverine876 4y ago
> an absolutely endless parade of people said that it's stupid and that I should stop. I was never popular, I don't know if I was any good, but I caved, and stopped. That is my experience (in different fields), and it's the experience of many. It was before I understood how innovation and creativity work ('first they laugh at you ...') and also before I learned to know and love myself. Now I face the same responses for some aspects of my life, but there is no doubt anymore about what I should be doing. But doubt or not, it can be lonely and stressful at times. There is a cost and it's not always worth paying. You have to know yourself to know the value of whatever you are doing, the cost to you, and whether that's worthwhile.

madrox 4y ago

I can’t believe it’s been 24 years. I remember exploring 0sil8 way back when and being inspired by the cool things you could do with html. How time flies.

asellke 4y ago

Gotta say, things just aren't the same without a little kottke.org to start my day (sniff).