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> However, with our current political system, the solutions to these problems are nearly impossible to accomplish. Unions, socialized health care, workers right

> However, with our current political system, the solutions to these problems are nearly impossible to accomplish. Unions, socialized health care, workers rights, mandated vacation time, overtime limits, minimum wages, and UBI are all lightyears away. All of those (except the UBI) exist in most developed countries. There are many problems, from taxes (the poor already pay zero, the rich avoid them, the middle class gets fucked), to foreign/illegal worker (why pay a fair pay to a local worker, if you can employ a foreigner for cheaper), to widespread corruption, anti-covid measures (mostly printing money and giving it around, bringing high inflation), to political sanctions (eg. ukraine war - it's no different than eg. the war in afghanistan or iraq or libya, syria, etc., but somehow we act as if it is, and with many political steps inbetween, the gas prices and food prices are soaring high), to people abusing all the buzzowords you've mentioned in countries that have them. Honestly, if just the police and courts did their jobs, and all the corruption was punished (from heads of government, to paying plumbers under the table and people abusing social benefits), a lot of the problems would be solved. In my country, we just had an election, and the two most pressing matters were healthcare (fscked) and housing prices (double fscked). Noone on TV ever mentioned how much an average worker pays for healthcare (it's automatically deducted in two different ways from your "gross-gross" paycheck), because people would get mad and ask where does all the money (a lot of it) actually go,... and also noone asks why we can have cornfields and cows in prime locations of our capital city, and even more prime development land in other cities, and the government (from national to local) doesn't allow building there, to bring the prices down.

mschuster91 5y ago
> and also noone asks why we can have cornfields and cows in prime locations of our capital city, and even more prime development land in other cities, and the government (from national to local) doesn't allow building there, to bring the prices down. For one, healthy good soil is rare and expensive. We're already wasting too much of it. And as for "prime development land" - I know the thoughts as a Munich resident and every time I see a rare piece of land that's not been built I always think "just how much housing could be built there". The thing is, a city also needs un-obstructed green space for local micro-climate reasons [1]. You can't just build up everything and expect livable temperatures, especially not with climate change looming. We should ask politicians instead why they let the rural areas rot to hell and beyond and people are forced to coop together in extremely dense unhealthy urban monster areas. [1] https://www.local-energy.swiss/dam/jcr:0471327e-8fe2-4f9f-ac5a-72f78a0add39/Faktenblatt2-Staedtische_Gruenflaechen_im_Klimawandel.pdf https://www.local-energy.swiss/dam/jcr:0471327e-8fe2-4f9f-ac...
- ajsnigrutin 5y ago
  I'm literally talking about an area inside the city highway ring or on the outer edge, with high congestion, where noone wants to eat food grown there. On the other end of the spectrum, we have rural areas, where locals have been basically thrown out by airbnb (have kids, want them to live in your village? Good luck, no way), and we still don't let people build more houses there, even with a ban on airbnb.... one example, city of "lesce" where a friend wants to live, but can't neither buy or build anything there, nor extend his parents house: https://goo.gl/maps/JV9aEBLEQS8aTsgM8 https://goo.gl/maps/JV9aEBLEQS8aTsgM8
tifik 5y ago
> it's no different than eg. the war in afghanistan. I agree. But that doesnt mean that we should care less about Ukraine though (which still makes sense bc its closer to 'home'), it means we should have cared way more about the same war happening in the middle east.
- ajsnigrutin 5y ago
  But you didn't care back then... also noone cared about yugoslavia/serbia in 1999, and it was even closer,... you just justified it the same way putin is now justifying the attack on ukraine. Yes, including bombing school, bridges, busses and trains full of people, etc. The current sanctions are hurting european people a lot more than they are hurting putin, and thus should be removed. European/american/NATO soldiers should go home, since they are currently occupying more than one sovereing country (the same way putin is), and preferably do it a bit better than they did when they left afghanistan. Only after all of yours and ours (since my country is a part of nato too) soldiers are back home, can we point fingers at putin.
  - ROTMetro 5y ago
    First, 1999 was a generation ago (about 25 years). Priorities are allowed to change in a generation, in this case for the better. Sorry that your first response to drawing a line at bombing schools, bridges, busses in Ukraine is to shout 'what about...' instead of to be glad people are willing to you know, be against bombing schools, bridges, and busses in at least one situation. Second, do you believe in preventative maintenance? In this case, Ukraine is preventative maintenance for future actions Russia will take (Russia has already shown from 2014 to now that it will make a peace deal, build strength, and attack again) that will result in more lives lost and worse economic impact. While the price is painful now, it is much less than it would be in 10 years. Third, what countries meet the definition of being occupied by European/American/NATO soldiers in Europe? Definition: control and possession of hostile territory that enables an invading nation to establish military government against an enemy or martial law against rebels or insurrectionists in its own territory. Your twisting of you know, the actual meaning of words shows your comment is nothing but propaganda, in this case propaganda promoting the bombing of schools, bridges, busses and trains full of people because it has been done in the past and appeasing violence because it impacts your pocket book.

mschuster91 5y ago

> and also noone asks why we can have cornfields and cows in prime locations of our capital city, and even more prime development land in other cities, and the government (from national to local) doesn't allow building there, to bring the prices down. For one, healthy good soil is rare and expensive. We're already wasting too much of it. And as for "prime development land" - I know the thoughts as a Munich resident and every time I see a rare piece of land that's not been built I always think "just how much housing could be built there". The thing is, a city also needs un-obstructed green space for local micro-climate reasons [1]. You can't just build up everything and expect livable temperatures, especially not with climate change looming. We should ask politicians instead why they let the rural areas rot to hell and beyond and people are forced to coop together in extremely dense unhealthy urban monster areas. [1] https://www.local-energy.swiss/dam/jcr:0471327e-8fe2-4f9f-ac5a-72f78a0add39/Faktenblatt2-Staedtische_Gruenflaechen_im_Klimawandel.pdf https://www.local-energy.swiss/dam/jcr:0471327e-8fe2-4f9f-ac...

ajsnigrutin 5y ago
I'm literally talking about an area inside the city highway ring or on the outer edge, with high congestion, where noone wants to eat food grown there. On the other end of the spectrum, we have rural areas, where locals have been basically thrown out by airbnb (have kids, want them to live in your village? Good luck, no way), and we still don't let people build more houses there, even with a ban on airbnb.... one example, city of "lesce" where a friend wants to live, but can't neither buy or build anything there, nor extend his parents house: https://goo.gl/maps/JV9aEBLEQS8aTsgM8 https://goo.gl/maps/JV9aEBLEQS8aTsgM8

tifik 5y ago

> it's no different than eg. the war in afghanistan. I agree. But that doesnt mean that we should care less about Ukraine though (which still makes sense bc its closer to 'home'), it means we should have cared way more about the same war happening in the middle east.

ajsnigrutin 5y ago
But you didn't care back then... also noone cared about yugoslavia/serbia in 1999, and it was even closer,... you just justified it the same way putin is now justifying the attack on ukraine. Yes, including bombing school, bridges, busses and trains full of people, etc. The current sanctions are hurting european people a lot more than they are hurting putin, and thus should be removed. European/american/NATO soldiers should go home, since they are currently occupying more than one sovereing country (the same way putin is), and preferably do it a bit better than they did when they left afghanistan. Only after all of yours and ours (since my country is a part of nato too) soldiers are back home, can we point fingers at putin.
- ROTMetro 5y ago
  First, 1999 was a generation ago (about 25 years). Priorities are allowed to change in a generation, in this case for the better. Sorry that your first response to drawing a line at bombing schools, bridges, busses in Ukraine is to shout 'what about...' instead of to be glad people are willing to you know, be against bombing schools, bridges, and busses in at least one situation. Second, do you believe in preventative maintenance? In this case, Ukraine is preventative maintenance for future actions Russia will take (Russia has already shown from 2014 to now that it will make a peace deal, build strength, and attack again) that will result in more lives lost and worse economic impact. While the price is painful now, it is much less than it would be in 10 years. Third, what countries meet the definition of being occupied by European/American/NATO soldiers in Europe? Definition: control and possession of hostile territory that enables an invading nation to establish military government against an enemy or martial law against rebels or insurrectionists in its own territory. Your twisting of you know, the actual meaning of words shows your comment is nothing but propaganda, in this case propaganda promoting the bombing of schools, bridges, busses and trains full of people because it has been done in the past and appeasing violence because it impacts your pocket book.