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Recently, I've been with people who unlike me don't have youtube premium and I loathe the ads. I'm so happy I pay for premium so I don't have to experience this

Recently, I've been with people who unlike me don't have youtube premium and I loathe the ads. I'm so happy I pay for premium so I don't have to experience this. I want to say "subscription is the right answer" but it clearly isn't enough for some people (netflix).

kmmlng 4y ago
The YouTube subscription just seems excessively expensive. I find it hard to fathom they would generate anywhere near as much revenue from me watching their ads compared to the subscription cost.
- rocqua 4y ago
  I found a youtube premium-lite option. It removes adds, but does not allow background play and a few other perks. But it only costs 6 euros. I found it a better deal than premium so I downgraded.
  - hundchenkatze 4y ago
    This would be great, exactly what I need. But they don't seem to offer it everywhere. I get the message "This offer is not available" when I go to https://www.youtube.com/premiumlite https://www.youtube.com/premiumlite
    - cpeterso 4y ago
      Looks like YouTube Premium Lite is only available in Belgium, Denmark, Finland, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Norway, and Sweden. https://www.theverge.com/2021/8/2/22605455/youtube-premium-lite-pilot-benelux-nordics-experiment-ad-free-subscription https://www.theverge.com/2021/8/2/22605455/youtube-premium-l...
  - r00fus 4y ago
    I honestly would prefer a premium-lite. I don't use YT as an audio source so background tab audio is annoying (even more on mobile - stopping my phone doesn't stop the video). Really want premium-lite for family sub :D
- sbradford26 4y ago
  So I agree for just YouTube it would be excessive. But they do combo it with youtube music which makes it a slightly better deal. Also personally they have the best family plan since it allows 6 accounts total and doesn't require to be "Under the same roof" like spotify. But I agree I probably wouldn't find the full price outside of the family plan worth it.
  - ASalazarMX 4y ago
    Last time I tried YouTube music, it was an underwhelming experience. I expected it to show only official videos, but it showed any random video with music. It substituted Google Play Music, where you could have a curated library and your own uploads, with random music videos.
    - coremoff 4y ago
      I think it only show "any random video with music" if you've liked the video and it appears to be a legitimate music video (i.e. without dialog/non-musical noises etc.). I use YtM a lot and the only questionable videos are ones that I've hit like on (beat saber being a prime example - I've learned not to like anything like that, these days).
    - sbradford26 4y ago
      I can't say that I have experienced the random music videos thing, but I agree it does feel like a bit of a downgrade from Google Play Music. I used the podcast part of Google Play Music a lot, since it put music and podcasts all in the same spot. Now I have had to switch to pocketcasts for that instead.
nemacol 4y ago
The main reason I don't want to pay is it cannot remove the ads the content creators put in themselves. I could see paying if it was a totally clean experience but to pay and get rid of part/half of the ads I would see does not seem worth it to me.
- yrral 4y ago
  You can use sponsorblock to automatically skip a variety of creator-inserted ads and interaction reminders ("please subscribe/like" etc). https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/sponsorblock-for-youtube/mnjggcdmjocbbbhaepdhchncahnbgone?hl=en https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/sponsorblock-for-y...
- martin_a 4y ago
  Before I get to reply to your comment, let's talk about my sponsor for today: Shady VPN! Did you know that killer sharks are tracking your every step and move through the internet? They are stalking you, so that they can find you, kill you and eat you (and your whole family, too!) when you go to the lake the other day. That is because they track all your steps on the internet. Now you might wonder: What can I do against that? It's easy: Just join Shady VPN and choose our VPN solution. Military grade encryption will hide your location from the network sniffing sharks so they have no idea where you are. Enjoy the summer. Sharkfree! On the topic: Same goes for me, "ad-free" YT is not really ad-free, only a little less "infested".
- jrootabega 4y ago
  Even setting aside the explicit ads, there's also the fact that the vast majority of YouTube content has been diluted and corrupted to be a vehicle for YouTube ads.
  - cpeterso 4y ago
    For example, I read that so many YouTube videos are stretched out to ten minutes because that's the minimum duration to get two ads on your videos.
    - 4y ago
ghaewrhaerga 4y ago
Why do you just not use ublock origin?
- martius 4y ago
  Because it only works on a browser, people also experience youtube on other devices (smart TV, chromecast, App on a non-rooted phone).
  - m0ngr31 4y ago
    NewPipe + Sponsorblock from FDroid and SmartTubeNext for Android TV
- kuu 4y ago
  I cannot install it on my Smart TV

kmmlng 4y ago

The YouTube subscription just seems excessively expensive. I find it hard to fathom they would generate anywhere near as much revenue from me watching their ads compared to the subscription cost.

rocqua 4y ago
I found a youtube premium-lite option. It removes adds, but does not allow background play and a few other perks. But it only costs 6 euros. I found it a better deal than premium so I downgraded.
- hundchenkatze 4y ago
  This would be great, exactly what I need. But they don't seem to offer it everywhere. I get the message "This offer is not available" when I go to https://www.youtube.com/premiumlite https://www.youtube.com/premiumlite
  - cpeterso 4y ago
    Looks like YouTube Premium Lite is only available in Belgium, Denmark, Finland, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Norway, and Sweden. https://www.theverge.com/2021/8/2/22605455/youtube-premium-lite-pilot-benelux-nordics-experiment-ad-free-subscription https://www.theverge.com/2021/8/2/22605455/youtube-premium-l...
- r00fus 4y ago
  I honestly would prefer a premium-lite. I don't use YT as an audio source so background tab audio is annoying (even more on mobile - stopping my phone doesn't stop the video). Really want premium-lite for family sub :D
sbradford26 4y ago
So I agree for just YouTube it would be excessive. But they do combo it with youtube music which makes it a slightly better deal. Also personally they have the best family plan since it allows 6 accounts total and doesn't require to be "Under the same roof" like spotify. But I agree I probably wouldn't find the full price outside of the family plan worth it.
- ASalazarMX 4y ago
  Last time I tried YouTube music, it was an underwhelming experience. I expected it to show only official videos, but it showed any random video with music. It substituted Google Play Music, where you could have a curated library and your own uploads, with random music videos.
  - coremoff 4y ago
    I think it only show "any random video with music" if you've liked the video and it appears to be a legitimate music video (i.e. without dialog/non-musical noises etc.). I use YtM a lot and the only questionable videos are ones that I've hit like on (beat saber being a prime example - I've learned not to like anything like that, these days).
  - sbradford26 4y ago
    I can't say that I have experienced the random music videos thing, but I agree it does feel like a bit of a downgrade from Google Play Music. I used the podcast part of Google Play Music a lot, since it put music and podcasts all in the same spot. Now I have had to switch to pocketcasts for that instead.

nemacol 4y ago

The main reason I don't want to pay is it cannot remove the ads the content creators put in themselves. I could see paying if it was a totally clean experience but to pay and get rid of part/half of the ads I would see does not seem worth it to me.

yrral 4y ago
You can use sponsorblock to automatically skip a variety of creator-inserted ads and interaction reminders ("please subscribe/like" etc). https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/sponsorblock-for-youtube/mnjggcdmjocbbbhaepdhchncahnbgone?hl=en https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/sponsorblock-for-y...
martin_a 4y ago
Before I get to reply to your comment, let's talk about my sponsor for today: Shady VPN! Did you know that killer sharks are tracking your every step and move through the internet? They are stalking you, so that they can find you, kill you and eat you (and your whole family, too!) when you go to the lake the other day. That is because they track all your steps on the internet. Now you might wonder: What can I do against that? It's easy: Just join Shady VPN and choose our VPN solution. Military grade encryption will hide your location from the network sniffing sharks so they have no idea where you are. Enjoy the summer. Sharkfree! On the topic: Same goes for me, "ad-free" YT is not really ad-free, only a little less "infested".
jrootabega 4y ago
Even setting aside the explicit ads, there's also the fact that the vast majority of YouTube content has been diluted and corrupted to be a vehicle for YouTube ads.
- cpeterso 4y ago
  For example, I read that so many YouTube videos are stretched out to ten minutes because that's the minimum duration to get two ads on your videos.
  - 4y ago

ghaewrhaerga 4y ago

Why do you just not use ublock origin?

martius 4y ago
Because it only works on a browser, people also experience youtube on other devices (smart TV, chromecast, App on a non-rooted phone).
- m0ngr31 4y ago
  NewPipe + Sponsorblock from FDroid and SmartTubeNext for Android TV
kuu 4y ago
I cannot install it on my Smart TV