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Uh, this article is someone on "the left" talking about why "the right" thinks it is important to study history. In this case, cites that "the right" is concern
by kardianos 4y ago
Uh, this article is someone on "the left" talking about why "the right" thinks it is important to study history. In this case, cites that "the right" is concerned with how civilizations fail, such as the Roman Empire.
This doesn't have anything to do with western supremacists, and it very much isn't someone on "the right" talking about themselves.
I'm totally cool with reading history and trying to learn from it.
- pm90 4y agoFrom the article: > The men who consume this stuff — and yes, it’s almost exclusively men — tend to believe two things: that ancient Greek and Roman culture are the basis of Western civilization and that these cultures are the exclusive achievements of white men. > But the idea isn’t merely to celebrate these ancient cultures. The goal is to turn a phrase like “Western civilization” into code for “white culture” and to cement a narrative about history that glorifies patriarchy and undercuts cultural progressivism. Your framing of the article is wildly incorrect. It makes it pretty clear that White Supremacists aren’t concerned about history in itself, but in a framing that glorifies white men. Presumably its analogous to how neo nazis revere Hitler and the Nazi party. The goal in each case is a yearning for “better times in the past” by emulating the past days of “glory”.
- zmgsabst 4y agoThat’s a description given by their political rivals — and a strawman. It also doesn’t support the original claim: that people talk down about Babylon and Egypt, a claim that never appears in the article. Celebrating Greece and Rome as European achievements doesn’t denigrate people from other areas. Nor does acknowledging how their philosophy filtered into European and later American thought. The paragraph you cited sounds like a bad faith “hit piece” unrelated to the claims that are being discussed regarding Babylon and Egypt.
- pm90 4y agoYour inability to get the argument doesn’t distract from the point being made. The article goes into various instances of this phenomenon happening, and your response is that it “sounds bad faith”? Thats not a strong argument.
- edgyquant 4y agoThis is no different than right wingers pointing to the most obscure tumblr accounts as proof “democrats are all crazy.” It’s not a serious piece nor would any academic treat it as such. This does not belong on HN, period.