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I wonder to what extent this is due to competition from Deno (& Deno Deploy). Deno Deploy is new and probably haves less users than Cloudflare by a wide margin,
by jitl 5y ago
I wonder to what extent this is due to competition from Deno (& Deno Deploy). Deno Deploy is new and probably haves less users than Cloudflare by a wide margin, but (before this announcement) I would prefer to use Deno Deploy or Fly.io instead of Cloudflare Workers.
Deno follows the same philosophy as Cloudflare Workers - it’s a web compatible, secure-by-default V8 runtime for server code. But instead of only running on Cloudflare’s service, Deno can run anywhere and has a growing ecosystem of modules ready to use, including a NodeJS compatibility shim. You can even emit NPM modules from Deno code using a build step. Because Deno is open, companies like Slack have adopted it as part of their first-party APIs (https://slack.com/blog/developers/faster-simpler-way-build-apps https://slack.com/blog/developers/faster-simpler-way-build-a...).
I think open sourcing the runtime is a good move from Cloudflare, but even as open source, will they be able to build an ecosystem to rival Deno over the long run? Their big moat/lock-in is still the rest of Cloudflare’s APIs - but with an open local dev environment perhaps it’s easier to convince someone like me to use https://denoflare.dev/ https://denoflare.dev/ and have the best of both worlds.
- jitl 5y agoSpeak of the devil! https://deno.com/blog/announcing-wintercg https://deno.com/blog/announcing-wintercg Deno, Cloudflare et all announce a new web server runtime working group… posted on HN by the Cloudflare CTO https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31313540 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31313540 (Edit: not to imply Cloudflare is a devil! Just a term of phrase - I’m a happy Cloudflare customer)
- kall 5y agoAnother moat they have is the number of data center locations.